Prince Harry’s speech

Did you ever see pictures of the Queen and DofE holding hands?

No, thought not, I can’t think of any off hand (no pun intended) but I suppose as he always walked a few paces behind, it would have been awkward.

Regarding H&M, now and again hand holding would be ok, but all the time? It just seems to say “Look at us, we are so in love, we can’t bear to be separated. It’s us against the world…..”

Philip and the queen obviously not. Totally different generation.

As I said pick on something more important!

I agree with Lucca that the hand holding (although it seems excessive to me) is irrelevant. It’s the content of the speech Harry gave which the thread is about. And to me, the context of the speech from Harry’s situation.

So for example, if we are allowed to go on our annual trip to Europe using a airline such as EasyJet (my usual choice of carrier for short haul European flights) then who is Harry addressing when he has suggested in various speeches that ‘we’ (who are we) need to take fewer flights? Who should take fewer flights Harry? Would it be me? Or perhaps ‘we’ means Harry. Certainly Harry would easily it seems, be able to cut his carbon emissions by taking fewer flights. He’s taken a few just this year whereas up to now, I’ve taken none.

And his have been on private jets so the carbon emissions are even worse per person on board as there's so few of them.

Oh I'm glad everyone's taken on board what I said.

We read what you said volver and aren't disagreeing, but we are fed up with Harry's lectures on the planet. I think the row about flights and private jets will rumble on and on because celebrities need to be seen at numerous far flung locations in order to promote themselves and their sometimes commendable causes. It's the celebs like H & M though who make constant speeches about how every minute decision, every tiny action and every little footprint we make can result in an enormous difference, and who then look hypocritical and stupid when they make contradictory decisions to fly 30+ times a year. Or are they all so entitled that they genuinely don't see it as any big deal?

Minor celebrities including Meghan and Harry seem to believe that the public ie the common herd, will take more notice of warnings when presented by them without any attempt to practise what they preach, let alone believe in it.

Do as I say not as I do.

Ordinary rules don't apply To People Like Us.

No, thought not

Total digression but I do find this expression rude

It's like a madness, this. Please don't be offended, but they very names "Harry and Meghan" cause all sorts of people to just morph into raging, incandescent angry people with no sense of proportion.

I don’t see any raging, incandescent angry remarks on here volver, so on this we must agree to disagree. I simply find it strange that any celebrities should be so disingenuous that they use many private jets in any one year, whilst at the same time exhorting the rest of us to take fewer flights. If this celebrity happened to be a much disliked politician for example, posters probably would be raging and incandescent, judging by other threads I’ve seen, but no incandescent anger on this thread that I’ve noticed.

Incidentally I have got flights booked for later this year. We’re flying to New Zealand, not by private jet, but by Emirates, economy on the way out, premium economy on the way back. Family relationships are very important to us and maintaining contact with our young grandchildren is premium to us. Two months in New Zealand for us, making memories with our family. I have no idea whether Harry would regard this trip as expendable but we certainly don’t.

Lucca

*No, thought not*

Total digression but I do find this expression rude

Oh dear.

Go for it Maddy

maddyone

Incidentally I have got flights booked for later this year. We’re flying to New Zealand, not by private jet, but by Emirates, economy on the way out, premium economy on the way back. Family relationships are very important to us and maintaining contact with our young grandchildren is premium to us. Two months in New Zealand for us, making memories with our family. I have no idea whether Harry would regard this trip as expendable but we certainly don’t.

Harry doesn't care if you go to New Zealand. Hence the comment about sense of proportion.

David Attenborough probably flies a lot. Shall we all throw metaphorical tomatoes at him?

There is a new book by Tom Bower called Revenge which looks interesting. Some very revealing information there!

Here he talks to Piers Morgan, first about Harry and then about the book.
Just wow!
Tom Bower and Piers Morgan

Chestnut

There is a new book by Tom Bower called Revenge which looks interesting. Some very revealing information there!

Here he talks to Piers Morgan, first about Harry and then about the book.
Just wow!
Tom Bower and Piers Morgan

Anything incandescent there?

I'm going to guess "yes".

No volver Harry doesn’t care whether I fly to New Zealand or I don’t, but he does apparently care enough about people taking flights that he has exhorted us all to take fewer flights. Fine, except he doesn’t!
I wonder which people he means who have to take fewer flights then?

Thanks Lucca, we can’t wait

volver is Piers Morgan on Gransnet do you think?

I'm going to France by ferry next month! Harry would approve.

So am I Josanne.

Sorry, missed the e out Joseanne.

I have a sense of proportion in that I judge H & M's parenting to be sound (no photos) and I believe they support some good causes (vaccines for poor countries). B
But I also have a sense of propriety and an understanding of how good manners work, especially with reference to one's family (the Queen and the DofE), (his father). No anger, no rage, no madness. If anything just disappointment and frustration.

maddyone

So am I Josanne.

Brittany for me. And you?