And it’s Liz as new PM

Zonne

Germanshepherdsmum

Just listened to Boris’s farewell speech. Real troop-rallying, election-winning oration which Truss will never match. I think that, like Margaret Thatcher, she needs voice coaching. It made a big difference to Thatcher’s gravitas.

But almost every word of it was either an outright lie (sorted social care, for example), an obsfucation (the employment figures, which he’s been censured for by theONS before) or taking the credit for something he hasn’t done (the fibre broadband role out is purely due to the private sector).

The Tory voters I know (some even in my own family, shock horror ?) don’t find this edifying any more (to be fair, most of them never did).

So how many new hospitals has he actually built? And who is staffing them?

Are you asking me, Maybee? If so, none that I’m aware of, and apparently staff that they are going to recruit abroad. If anyone believes that will work, let me know, as I have a bridge for sale.

Boris lives in Boris world.. no clue where that is..a true narcissist and inflated ego.. just Flip Off

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I don’t think Gordon Brown [L)had even that number of voters. In fact no one voted for him. We do not have. a Presidential System in the U.K. We vote for a party leader. Would you be happy to see Cons vote for a Labour Party leader?

Not the best example, as Brown was unopposed when he stood for the leadership Freya5, ie all the MPs supported him to take over from Blair. Actually, it was known well before Blair stood down that he would be replaced by Brown, they came as a package - so in fact everybody who had voted Labour voted for him, rather than nobody.

Redhead56

The woman is a hypocrite claims to be a Christian had an affair backed legalisation of cannabis and wanted the monarchy abolished.

What, though, is un-Christian about legalising cannabis, it's an addictive substance like alcohol and tobacco? And wanting to replace the monarchy - an epitome of privilege - and replace it with a more democratic governance doesn't strike me as being particularly un-Christian either.

As for her affair, that's a private matter, but I am minded of Jesus' admonishment to the Pharisees, ‘Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone’. Even as an atheist, I can see the validity of that observation. People make mistakes in life - should that bar them from being a Christian?

I will not judge her in her personal space, only in what she does for or against the nation she's now going to lead.

Good post Dickens.

All got their noses in the trough !

Know what amazes me?
She's only been in Parliament for 9 years!
What a swift rise to power!

mumu54

Fleurpepper

Gawd help us !!!

I second that!

me too

Maybe she will understand more - and care more - about the real needs of disadvantaged people than her predecessor - but I doubt it somehow. Did you know that more 'levelling up' money has gone to the relatively affluent South East than to the North East of England where there is real deprivation?

Here is a quote from a recent article in the Guardian:

The south-east of England, the most affluent region in Britain outside London, last year received almost twice as much money as the north-east from the government’s levelling up fund aimed at boosting deprived areas.

Projects in the south-east benefited from £9.2m from the fund in the year to 31 March 2022. By comparison, the north-east only received £4.9m, despite being the poorest region in Britain by disposable household income.

Yes, she's known - as a Remainer, a LibDem, and an adulteress (don't hold the last one against her, tho' I wonder if it was the 'career-couch' if you know what I mean.) All she wants is power and she has said whatever it took to get it, like Johnson but with less panache. Yes, Goddess help us all!

Fleurpepper

Gawd help us !!!

Seconded again

I wonder what would happen if Tony Blair went back into politics as head of the Labour Party? Would they finally be able to offer some strong opposition?

☹️ poor Nhs, poorer poor and richer rich. Well on the good news we have had rain here in our part of Wiltshire.

Am I the only one to think that running a country isn’t something you should ‘ give someone a chance’ at doing, especially one which is in such a mess?

Blondiescot So many people imagine Hadrian's wall and the Scottish border are one and the same. They are not. Almost the whole of Northumberland is north of the wall. No disrespect but we are English and wish to remain so! ?

For goodness sake! Give the woman a chance. She might be the best thing since Mrs Thatcher for all we know! The fact she doesn’t like / trust Cranky is a bonus.

lizzypopbottle

Blondiescot So many people imagine Hadrian's wall and the Scottish border are one and the same. They are not. Almost the whole of Northumberland is north of the wall. No disrespect but we are English and wish to remain so! ?

I do know that - it was just a joke!

Zonne

So, if my maths is right, c98,300 people have just chosen the leader of 67 million of us.

Seems fair.

We've never voted for the PM. Only our own MPs. That's not changed, nor is it going to.

kiligran

For goodness sake! Give the woman a chance. She might be the best thing since Mrs Thatcher for all we know! The fact she doesn’t like / trust Cranky is a bonus.

That’s a really silly thing to say kiligran. Making her feelings public about the democratically elected first minister of Scotland is profoundly foolish. One of the first rules of good politics is not making your personal feelings public.

Good, a comprehensive schoolgirl has outwitted all those privately educated privileged men ! give her a chance.
The sexism aimed at her is appalling. She is clear and transparent and all her colleagues voted for her, she’s had 8 cabinet posts under three prime ministers.. yet people say she is ditsy etc. I don’t think so.
Her biggest fear is authoritarianism, her main complaint about the far left of her upbringing. In the hustings she stayed with her parents in Leeds she is close to her mother. Let’s give her a chance, she was a remainer, stood as a Lib dem….but then the only party that could win and had ever elected a female leader were the Conservatives. She’s known to be very pragmatic and fearless.
It’s so unfashionable to like her it’s sparked my oppositional streak. Only dead fish go with the flow. Now show us what you are made of Liz.

I don't think that the few thousand mainly older white people who actually got to choose the next Leader of the Conservative Party and de facto Prime Minister could possibly have chosen Sunak.
Because he isn't British/isn't white.
I guess I am saying that Sunak didn't have a chance because of racism. Never mind if he would have made a better Leader/PM...

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kiligran

For goodness sake! Give the woman a chance. She might be the best thing since Mrs Thatcher for all we know! The fact she doesn’t like / trust Cranky is a bonus.

And the fact that you resort to name calling ( and I believe it is spelled ‘ Krankie’) doesn’t inspire respect for your opinion.