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And it’s Liz as new PM

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Bea65 Mon 05-Sept-22 12:38:24

Well thank goodness this new PM debacle is over.. just have to see if what is promised is delivered and hope we all get the support we need?

grannygranby Tue 06-Sept-22 12:41:19

Her maths professor father said she always outwitted them at games when she was a child.. that made me laugh

kevincharley Tue 06-Sept-22 12:41:47

Frying pan ... fire!

Petera Tue 06-Sept-22 12:46:08

Paperbackwriter

Zonne

So, if my maths is right, c98,300 people have just chosen the leader of 67 million of us.

Seems fair.

We've never voted for the PM. Only our own MPs. That's not changed, nor is it going to.

That's true, and let's say it loudly every time someone like Johnson claims that he has a personal mandate.

But it really misses the point, Zonne's comment is factually correct. A few tens of thousands of people did vote for a PM this time.

Dillonsgranma Tue 06-Sept-22 12:46:11

Come back Boris!

Uninvitedme Tue 06-Sept-22 12:50:59

Are we going to give Liz Truss a chance or are we condemning her straight away. I think between the two of them I would prefer her for the simple reason Rishi Sunak stabbed Boris Johnson in the back and he was Johnson’s good friend. I think anybody who stabs anyone in the back especially when they’re friends “Supposedly “can’t be trusted… and I just don’t trust Sunak…

Nannan2 Tue 06-Sept-22 12:51:21

For Gawds sake- sorry for seeming sexist- as im a woman too and all- but how many more times do they have to put in a (conservative) woman till they realise IT DOES NOT WORK, and it wont help the beggaring mess the UK is now in!?

Granny23 Tue 06-Sept-22 12:52:41

She really does have an unfortunate name. Already being labelled Ms Trust.

Uninvitedme Tue 06-Sept-22 12:53:07

Only members of the party are allowed to choose the p.m. at this point, you’ll get your chance at the general election.

5553n Tue 06-Sept-22 12:56:19

Liz hasn't proved herself to be honest in tbe past as she cheated on her husband. Not saying it will happen again but can she act in all our interests given her track record.

Maremia Tue 06-Sept-22 12:56:24

Don't worry folks. She is just keeping the throne warm, until the return of the Cincinnati Kid-on.

Lizzie44 Tue 06-Sept-22 12:57:27

It's not voice coaching/gravitas that LT needs. She needs compassion and credibility.

oldeman Tue 06-Sept-22 13:02:54

Does anybody know of anyone in any party that would make a good PM? Someone that has the b##ls to deal with the fuel crisis and many other financial problems being faced by the public at large! I think the answer is NO. Dig up Winston Churchill I say and breath some life back in him just long enough for him to sort it out. ( a couple of hours maybe)

DaisyAnne Tue 06-Sept-22 13:03:30

5553n

Liz hasn't proved herself to be honest in tbe past as she cheated on her husband. Not saying it will happen again but can she act in all our interests given her track record.

That would not affect my view of her. Other things would and do.

Pantglas2 Tue 06-Sept-22 13:09:23

“That’s a really silly thing to say kiligran. Making her feelings public about the democratically elected first minister of Scotland is profoundly foolish. One of the first rules of good politics is not making your personal feelings public.”

Agreed Casdon. When Drakeford did it to Johnson I’m sure we were all appalled- weren’t we?

lizzypopbottle Tue 06-Sept-22 13:09:38

Blondiescot I knew that. ? As a Scot, you could hardly not know where the border lies. I should just accept that Northumberland is England's best kept secret. It's better that way! ???

coastalgran Tue 06-Sept-22 13:10:53

Sorry to those who like Liz Truss but to me she comes across as slightly nervy, unsure of where she is and what she is doing and her delivery as a speaker is dreadful in her slightly nervy school teacher voice. Boris may have been a rubbishy PM but at least he had stage presence and could speak and command an audience. I take it that dishy Rishi is off to the US now t make more serious money.

Lin663 Tue 06-Sept-22 13:13:41

Oh dear…oh dear…the lunatics are taking over the asylum….how depressing

Nannina Tue 06-Sept-22 13:16:01

Fleurpepper

Gawd help us !!!

My thought exactly!

Lin663 Tue 06-Sept-22 13:16:13

Love the fact people are condemning Sunak for backstabbing the back stabbing bas***rd Boris grin

Casdon Tue 06-Sept-22 13:16:54

Pantglas2

“That’s a really silly thing to say kiligran. Making her feelings public about the democratically elected first minister of Scotland is profoundly foolish. One of the first rules of good politics is not making your personal feelings public.”

Agreed Casdon. When Drakeford did it to Johnson I’m sure we were all appalled- weren’t we?

With Drakeford as I’m sure you know it was an overheard private conversation Pantglas, but nonetheless I didn’t approve. I think it’s political incompetence to discuss your feelings about other leaders in derogatory terms. Johnson has said some disgraceful things about Macron, and I’ve cringed every time. How to win friends and influence people - not.

kiligran Tue 06-Sept-22 13:37:52

Casdon

kiligran

For goodness sake! Give the woman a chance. She might be the best thing since Mrs Thatcher for all we know! The fact she doesn’t like / trust Cranky is a bonus.

That’s a really silly thing to say kiligran. Making her feelings public about the democratically elected first minister of Scotland is profoundly foolish. One of the first rules of good politics is not making your personal feelings public.

I beg to differ. Many politicians feel the same …. and about that horrible man Ian Blackford. It isn’t as if they show any respect to Westminster …. either of them.

Pantglas2 Tue 06-Sept-22 13:38:51

How to win friends and influence people - not.

Very true, Casdon.

Bluecat Tue 06-Sept-22 13:57:28

The entire contest was a farce. I read one comment which I thought was very true. "It's a choice between a fat cat and a half-wit, but the fat cat is too brown for Tory Party members so we're getting the half-wit." And so it was to be.

After we watched Truss's acceptance speech, my DH singled out one line as particularly pointless. "I campaigned as a Conservative and I shall govern as a Conservative." No, really? We expected you to campaign as a Conservative and govern as a communist.

So now we have Liz 'pork markets' Truss at the helm. God help this poor country. Haven't we suffered enough?

Granny23 Tue 06-Sept-22 13:59:18

I beg to differ too - Ian Blackford is a lovely man, much loved by his constituents for all that he does for them. Expecting respect for Westminster from the SNP , when other members walk out, or hiss, boo, to drown them out every time they rise to speak. The SNP are the 3rd largest party at Westminster so, I think it is them who should be shown a bit of respect

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Sept-22 14:07:04

coastalgran

Sorry to those who like Liz Truss but to me she comes across as slightly nervy, unsure of where she is and what she is doing and her delivery as a speaker is dreadful in her slightly nervy school teacher voice. Boris may have been a rubbishy PM but at least he had stage presence and could speak and command an audience. I take it that dishy Rishi is off to the US now t make more serious money.

I agree coastalgran. If you don’t command the stage people don’t listen. I look forward to seeing how she fares at PMQs. I feel a serious bout of embarrassment coming on.