And it’s Liz as new PM

how!

I bet you wouldn’t object if Labour were in power and their new leader was being chosen in the customary way.

Meantime..in Scotland the FM has announced the Scottish child payment of £25 a week will be paid for all 16 year old and under from November the 14th,
Thats what a government who cares about the people does .With the free travel for all under 22's and mitigating Tory policies like the bedroom tax,more free hours of childcare etc.Life might ,just might not be as hard as our neighbours down south have it .
Why DO you vote tory?

Germanshepherdsmum

I bet you wouldn’t object if Labour were in power and their new leader was being chosen in the customary way.

I'm unsure if that’s just a general comment GSM or directed to anyone, but I did object, and wrote to my Labour MP (for whom I voted) when Brown did not have an election.

More importantly David Cameron also objected – does he now think he was wrong to do so?

It was to Fleurpepper.

Germanshepherdsmum

It was to Fleurpepper.

But was Cameron wrong?

Germanshepherdsmum

I bet you wouldn’t object if Labour were in power and their new leader was being chosen in the customary way.

I would indeed - it is an iniquitous undemocratic system whichever party is involved.

There was no election process when Brown took over - totally different.

But the election process is a system where we vote for a party not for a leader. That is down to the party members. It has always been this way. I don’t remember so many complaints when the Conservative party members voted to remove Boris.

sazz1

Reading up the comments I'm starting to like Lizzy. Totally agree we should legalise cannabis as America, Netherlands and other countries have. Its regulated there so you know what's in it and under government control. I don't smoke it but can't see why others shouldn't. Alcohol kills so many people each year but we don't ban that, or tobacco.
Also I think abolishing the monarchy is a great idea and I'm in favour of a republic. We could keep the parades for the tourists without paying a fortune for the Queen and all her hangers on. People living on the streets and her with all those palaces full of empty rooms. Just a president with one residence would suit me.

Except for cannabis, if legalised would not be under the govt's control. I've no doubt that the job of manufacturing and selling would go to a crony or two, or quite possibly an American company.

Let's give the girl a chance - it's in everyone's interest that she does well and 'delivers'.

Germanshepherdsmum

There was no election process when Brown took over - totally different.

Sorry are you arguing that the 80000 conservative voters legitimise it?

And again - if you are - was Cameron therefore wrong?

Whoever got the job will probably make another Horlicks of it and take a huge wage while others freeze this winter. I'm sick and tired of it all.

Well, as she grew up in a Labour household then became Lib Dem in her uni days I’m really hoping she’ll have a balanced outlook…….but I don’t think that will happen.

All those opposed to the new PM are you willing her to fail?

You do realise that if she does, it will cause more damage to the U.K.

I am all for giving her a chance, listening to what the plans are regarding energy, cost of living etc., and then make up my mind.

Germanshepherdsmum

I bet you wouldn’t object if Labour were in power and their new leader was being chosen in the customary way.

Oh yes, I would- especially if it is the 3rd time in a row! I am a Lib Dem btw, but would happily vote Labour tactically to get rid of Cons.

That should never be allowed to happen, twice and then straight on to GE.

Mmmm her speech left me thinking that these were exactly the same priorities identified by previous PMs. Wonder what they have been doing over the last 12 years. Also just heard that the help for energy bills
might result in us paying ‘moderately’ higher bills over up to 20 years!!! Seriously worried!!

This forum is so left wing !Do you think foul mouthed Rayner would do any better or keir starmer ? The world is in a mess . I am not a conservative by any means but I haven't heard anyone who has come up with a really good idea how to get out of the position we are in

Here is the way to do it .... Proportional Representation, so we can have a true democracy.... and get more balanced policies.

hear hear

Criticising Angela Raynor is sacrilege here ruthie.

Well said Beckett

5553N she had an affair 16 years ago , have you never made a mistake , I don’t care if she had an affair if she can sort this country out!

I don’t remember so many complaints when the Conservative party members voted to remove Boris.

I expect that is because it didn't happen, Nanny27

No, Petera, Cameron was not wrong to object to the lack of the usual process for electing a new party leader. Who knows if Brown (for whom I have a lot of admiration) would have won? It was a bit of a stitch up though, and I can't begin to imagine what would have been said if BJ had elected his own successor.

I'm not a member of any political party but I guess that if one wants to have a say in who the next leader of any party is one has to join and pay up.