Apart from death , what are your worries for your Grandchildren?

I am surprised how many people don't keep up with daily news and what's going on in our country. Feral schoolkids
waiting to pounce on another outside school and attempt to stab them with machete.. stopped by a security guard who dashed accross the road and got rid of the gang.. that is not a one off. Then there are the thugs on motor bikes riding up together on pavement and robbing shops.

then in Leicester 2 weeks ago there were mass fights between two different religions.

then people ask......has this been happening to people!

tickingbird

Gagajo

Why are you talking about Muslims being white and me being offensive? It is you who are offensive with your predilection for jumping to conclusions. You are typical of the type of race baiter that cries racism at every opportunity. I have no problem with anyone’s skin colour and that has nothing to do with Islam.

I don’t want my young grandchildren to live in an Islamic country and, in spite of your politically correct denials, nor do you. We already have Sharia law, calls to prayer and segregation of sexes in the UK. Don’t try and tell me I’m offensive and that applies to you too Franbern.

I’d love dearly to tell you what I really think of your comments but will refrain and clean the bathroom instead

We have Sharia law? Really? Where?

What is wrong with a call to prayer? That is what church bells are.

I reiterate. My Muslim friends are very family orientated. Lovely people. Warm and welcoming. I am very happy that they live here, so don't tell me what I do or don't want. They are distinctly preferable to the extreme right wing Tories we've had lately.

I have no idea what you find threatening about that. Other than bigotry.

GagaJo - totally agree with you there. How is the Muslim call to prayer any different from church bells? My Muslim friends are all lovely, warm, welcoming and very family-oriented too - and very tolerant of others' faiths and those who have none (like me).
The picture some are painting on here of daily life is very alien to anything I know. It's certainly nothing like the Scotland I live in, for instance.

Exactly Blondiescot. My lovely Muslim friend V. a Tory. I know which one I'd pick 100% of the time.

Franbern

halfpint1

My fear is they are relying too much on the technology they have now as they grow up. If that ceases can they adapt. I like all the new bits and bobs we have now but also know how to live without

Could YOU or any of us really know how to live without technology. Not just the more modern ones, but those we have grown up as accepting as the norm. Electricity, cars, trains, flushing toilets, radio, clothes, shoes all made up, food available to purchase, etc. etc.

How far do you think we can go back - stoneage maybe, all live in caves, wear animal skins and only eat what we can kill.grow. Technology has been with mankind for thousands of years, not just the last few decades.

Gosh another unnecessary reply. Its my fear and your reply
is taking it far too far

Gagajo serious question not meant to bait. Why did you suddenly bring Tories into the discussion?

Gagajo. I have no idea what you find threatening about that. Other than bigotry

Maybe you’re being deliberately imperceptive or maybe you’re just being provocative. I suppose calling posters racist or right wing Tories is what you do when you have nothing of value to offer.

An Islamic country isn’t a barrel of fun for the average Muslim anymore than it is for anyone else. Nothing to do with individual followers of the faith and, let’s face it, in Islamic countries they don’t get much choice.

You are very bigoted in your thinking and your hatred of anyone who doesn’t think or vote like you is obvious from your posts.

As bigoted as someone that makes the automatic link between someone that has an Islamic faith and a totalitarian regimine tickingbird? That is where the Tory link comes from, obviously.

Halfpint1

^Gosh another unnecessary reply. Its my fear and your reply
is taking it far too far^

I agree. The OP asked a question but some posters just enjoy baiting and being rude. Some sad, unhappy people on here.

As bigoted as someone that makes the automatic link between someone that has an Islamic faith and a totalitarian regimine tickingbird? That is where the Tory link comes from, obviously.

Really?? Tories and totalitarian regimes?? Oh dear. No Islamic countries with totalitarian regimes then?

My DGS isn't living in an Islamic state though. So no, that isn't a fear I have for him. And given that my Muslim friends welcome him into their homes, I'm more than happy for him to experience their faith. The more cultures he experiences the better. I was exposed to a range of cultures as a child because my mum loved travelling, and luckily, my grandson will have some of those intercultural benefits here in the UK. And now a Hindu PM.

Zealots, bigots and racists come in all colours and religions.

Gagajo, totally with you here. So many people have no idea that Muslims come in so many different groups, a bit like Christians, really. How would they feel if Muslim people on the other side of the world confused Plymouth Brethren or Mormons, with CofE.

We have a large part of our family who are Muslims, and they are the nicest, warmest and most tolerant people you can imagine.

Our Church bells are very loud- 4 bells for each quarter, and then the hour- through the night. At midnight therefore, 4 x 4 bells (as loud as Big Ben) and then 12 ... I am not a Christian, but I respect the tradition.

As an Aussie of Brit descent, most of my family lives fairly safely in Oz and some live in Scandinavia but what most concerns me for my beloved children and grandchilden is climate change. Climate change will not only effect weather patterns but migration patterns, water and food supplies and inevitably power structures. I know enough of history to understand that many generations before us have faced painful and disruptive turbulence but it still scares me that those I love so very dearly may or will have to face these issues. How do other Grans think and feel about these issues?

What has colour or race got to do with Islam?

tickingbird

What has colour or race got to do with Islam?

In a discussion about bigotry, lots. They are a very discriminated against group.

Being troubled by the horrors of modern life - on-line trolling and cruelty and terrible behaviour encouraged by pornography.

Gagajo, knowing that modern Islam is an authoritarian and often politicised religion is absolutely okay. However most British Muslims are law abiding people and obey British before Sharia law.

There has been a problem with certain Islamic schools but this has not been reported for at least a year.

I don’t have any grandchildren yet, but would be worried for them, world wars, like currently with Russia and Ukraine. Social media when used in the wrong ways, ie amount of suicides amongst the young, the pressure to look good in all falseness. Need for cosmetic repair so young, when nothing is wrong with their bodies at such a young age.
The use of mobile phones/tablets, PlayStation/game boy etc when they are being used ‘excessively’ and can’t be bothered with reading books, going out to meet people or walks.

In a discussion about bigotry, lots. They are a very discriminated against group.

This isn’t a discussion about bigotry despite your attempts to turn it into one. You brought colour and racism into it and even the fact that your own grandson is brown - your words not mine. You began by saying the majority of muslims are white and then accused me of racism and bigotry. When that didn’t work you brought the Tories into the mix. Someone else asked you why you had done so but you ignored them. You’re desperately trying to deflect from your earlier comments so turn to your usual cry of racism/bigotry. I know what bigotry is and I know when I’m dealing with a bigot.

Oh, come on. You think that Britain is “at risk” of becoming an Islamic country. I think we know who the bigot is.

NotAGran55

Are you a journalist BB2013?

Well if they are will have fun publishing some of these postings as typical grandparents views!

War and climate change are top of my list, but I would also love them to grow up in caring and a less polarised and racist society.

tickingbird

^In a discussion about bigotry, lots. They are a very discriminated against group.^

This isn’t a discussion about bigotry despite your attempts to turn it into one. You brought colour and racism into it and even the fact that your own grandson is brown - your words not mine. You began by saying the majority of muslims are white and then accused me of racism and bigotry. When that didn’t work you brought the Tories into the mix. Someone else asked you why you had done so but you ignored them. You’re desperately trying to deflect from your earlier comments so turn to your usual cry of racism/bigotry. I know what bigotry is and I know when I’m dealing with a bigot.

Oh get over yourself woman. You're way too invested in proving a point. It's an online forum for grannies. Not the HOP.

I think you're an Islamophobe. I think everyone is equal.

Gagajo

I was wondering how long it would take you to get around to throwing Islamophobe into the mix. So predictable. This from someone who considers this government a totalitarian regime. You’re a parody woman!

Caleo

Gagajo, knowing that modern Islam is an authoritarian and often politicised religion is absolutely okay. However most British Muslims are law abiding people and obey British before Sharia law.

There has been a problem with certain Islamic schools but this has not been reported for at least a year.

No school should be allowed to operate without full State supervision and without following the Curriculum. I do not care if they are Islamic, Jewish, or whatever.