Apart from death , what are your worries for your Grandchildren?

them not knowing how wonderful they are

Well all the statistics in my post are from the office of national statistics and freely accessible online. Given they use census date I’m sure they do know how many people, and muslims or any other religion are in the country.

It’s not rude to challenge racism. It is however, rude and discriminatory to be racist.

It’s very rude to tell someone not to be so bloody ridiculous which is what you said to me. Also calling me a racist. Since when has religion been a race?? You’re talking nonsense and if it’s taken you this long to come up with that retort please don’t bother with another.

Would you call Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch racist when they criticise Islamic countries?

Given that the majority of Islamic countries are Middle Eastern I think it’s quite obvious who the target group for comments about Muslims taking over is targeted at.

Your original post wasn’t criticising Islamic countries though, was it? It was suggesting that the UK would become an Islamic country. I was pointing out it is ridiculous to think that when 95% of the population are not Muslim. This country has become more and more right wing in the last decade, as a lot of Europe seems to have (Italy and france for example). In lots of areas there is an open hostility to Muslims. The UK is never going to become a Muslim country. There may be sharia courts now but they don’t trump British law. The call to prayer is no different to church bells as pp’s have pointed out, it’s not a demand that you go to a mosque and pray. I worked in a majority Muslim school, in an area with a large Muslim population and staff and students weren’t allowed to take time out of lessons to pray. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is hysteria born out of racism.

I can't say I spend any particular amount of time worrying for the sake of it.

Nor do I. You can’t live your life worrying about what May/May not happen. I hope my grandchild stays healthy and has a happy life. That’s as much as I can hope for.

No you are wrong. The OP asked what our fears were for our grandchildren. One of my fears was that one day when I’m long gone they might be in an Islamic country (UK).

Your first paragraph makes no sense at all as I was originally told that the majority of Muslims are white. So you are now suggesting I’m racist towards Arabs? Basically, you’ve jumped on a bandwagon without thinking it through and launched into racism. Attempting to stifle any discussion. However, the thread wasn’t really a discussion. People replied to the OP and your opinion on whether my fears are justified or not isn’t wanted or valued.

You cannot categorically state this will never happen and to suggest this country is becoming far right is a far left slur. The UK is far, far removed from being far right but such as you, from a position on the far left make such spurious claims. Thousands of people risking their lives to get here proves what a tolerant country the UK is.

I had a post deleted for stating a fact and your assertion that there are areas of open hostility to Muslims is false. There is far more hostility to Jews. Do you realise there is a police presence at every Synagogue for services? Are you aware of the Muslim attacks on elderly Jewish men and women carried out by Muslims in parts of London and Manchester? This is fact. Obviously not all Muslims behave like this so I don’t need you to tell me that and you’re wrong about the call to prayer- I know as I used to live in a high Muslim population area and my neighbours were Muslim. There was a madrasa on one end of the street and several mosques in the area. We all rubbed along very well but I wouldn’t have mentioned the fact that I’m Jewish and the youngest of my 3 sons is gay and he was well aware that he had to keep that quiet.

Please don’t lecture me about that which you know nothing about. Carry on in ignorance.

OK some people have positive experiences of certain religions but it is not true everywhere.
I have lived in a mostly Muslim area in a city. I experienced quite a bit of anti white racism living there. Including offensive graffiti. But the worst was the grown men trying to grope my teenage DD and do the whole trying to groom her behaviour.
It didn't happen because she wasn't vulnerable. But it did frighten her.
I was not impressed with what happened,
I wish now I had made more fuss, i didn't make any, but I didn't want to upset anyone.
The muslim women were not allowed to talk to me. And these women do as they are told.
I saw and experienced enough prejudice towards us as white non muslims that my feelings have changed.

I don't want my DCGs to be hurt by any men. whatever colour or religion.

I dont have any and never wanted children. A decision I never regretted.

I would not have had time or patience for all that helecopter parenting and would have left mine to tough it out the way I had to in school.