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Is this a generation thing or a personality thing?

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Nanamar Wed 26-Oct-22 17:38:29

Just curious regarding your observations of your ACs with regard to appointments and commitments. I find that DS and ex DDIL
tend to leave many things last minute, give themselves a very narrow margin of time, etc. I also find them a bit blase’ about social arrangements. For example, DIL made arrangements months ago to meet two friends for a birthday celebration weekend in Las Vegas (we live in CA about three hours away.) At the last minute she pulled out because she didn’t feel like risking exposure to COVID in a place she actually doesn’t really enjoy anyway. She took and sent a photo of a friend’s positive COVID test and said that it was DS’s and that’s why she couldn’t come. It isn’t my business of course. I’m just wondering if this casual attitude about arrangements is something you see in this generation? I know I am personally probably too assiduous about punctuality and following through with commitments so don’t know if it’s a personality characteristic.

Norah Wed 26-Oct-22 17:50:17

I also tend to leave many things last minute, give myself a very narrow margin of time. That's personality, my opinion. I don't like plans at age 77.

I also find them a bit blase’ about social arrangements. For example, DIL made arrangements months ago to meet two friends for a birthday celebration weekend in Las Vegas (we live in CA about three hours away.) At the last minute she pulled out because she didn’t feel like risking exposure to COVID in a place she actually doesn’t really enjoy anyway. She took and sent a photo of a friend’s positive COVID test and said that it was DS’s and that’s why she couldn’t come.

The above isn't acceptable, to me, no need to be a liar, I'd rather admit why going is never going to happen.

Doodledog Wed 26-Oct-22 17:52:25

I think it's a personality thing, as many people of may age (63) have what I see as a cavalier attitude to arrangements. If they don't feel like doing something they cry off at the last minute, are late without good reason, and generally let people down.
I really don't like it, and have stopped bothering with friends if they do it too often.

I know what life happens, and it's not possible to keep to every arrangement you make, but IMO crying off without good reason is saying that your time/needs are more important than those of the person who may have refused another invitation or gone to other trouble to keep the one with you.

I do think that the ability to text excuses has made things worse, but I don't think that young people are the worst offenders - far from it.

crazyH Wed 26-Oct-22 18:05:34

Generational, I think.
I hate leaving things to the last minute. On Sunday, daughter and I went to Birmingham for a show. On Saturday, early evening, I texted her to check on pick-up time.( she was going to drive). No reply. I didn’t want to keep ringing or texting , because she works and would probably be tired. I left it to her. No call, no text, until 8 a.m. Sunday. ‘Will pick you up in 15 minutes’. Glad I was ready ?

Norah Wed 26-Oct-22 18:11:08

crazyH

Generational, I think.
I hate leaving things to the last minute. On Sunday, daughter and I went to Birmingham for a show. On Saturday, early evening, I texted her to check on pick-up time.( she was going to drive). No reply. I didn’t want to keep ringing or texting , because she works and would probably be tired. I left it to her. No call, no text, until 8 a.m. Sunday. ‘Will pick you up in 15 minutes’. Glad I was ready ?

Your daughter and I would be a perfect fit. She may be too young to be my child, but I like the "no plans" method.

Doodledog Wed 26-Oct-22 18:18:44

I can deal with no plans - it's the pulling out/cancellation that I struggle with.

FlexibleFriend Wed 26-Oct-22 18:23:08

Personality thing in my opinion, I make and stick to appointments and arrangements and so do my children.

Doodledog Wed 26-Oct-22 18:25:06

Yes, my children are more difficult to pin down than I am, probably because their lives are busier and they have more options, but when they've agreed to do something they keep to their word.

Mollygo Wed 26-Oct-22 23:40:36

My children are well organised and keep me informed if there’s any changes as far in advance as is possible. 2 DGD is a very last minute person but she doesn’t drop out. I had one friend who was well known in our group for ‘forgetting’. I used to ring and remind her but eventually decided it wasn’t worth the effort.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Oct-22 00:08:37

No, I think it's a personality rather than a generational thing.

My DC are very well organised and have to be.

Since I retired I tend to be more of a last-minute person in organising outings, trips, holidays etc. although I used to be very organised (is that generational or just that my time's generally my own now?).
But I would not let anyone down unless it was absolutely necessary.

Wyllow3 Thu 27-Oct-22 00:12:59

It depends who the friend is. If someone has come some distance, or its very special, then it's every effort. but as I have off days and some friends do, we have arrangements that are, "if needed, postpone same day, no hard feelings". So there may be disappointment, but not take it personally if those need to be altered.

But thinking aloud all these occasions have been remembered, and people know where they are.

Chardy Thu 27-Oct-22 08:08:49

When working I found planning things in advance meant spending much longer on the task, and subsequently tweaking it. If I left it until later, I'd use an adrenaline rush to get it sorted quickly.

Blondiescot Thu 27-Oct-22 09:19:11

Definitely a personality thing, I think. I cannot abide unpunctuality. I would rather be an hour early for something than five minutes late. I like to plan things in advance and if I am let down at the last minute, do not for one minute think I will forget that.

Esmay Thu 27-Oct-22 09:23:39

I know what you mean .
I far prefer to be organised when going out .
I have friends who want to out -then get into some sort of panic over it and change their minds .

And others , who are so casual -that they are never ready on time so that actually going is totally chaotic .

Yammy Thu 27-Oct-22 09:34:27

I think it is a personal thing not generational. I have a friend who will make arrangements months in advance and then at the last minute make a lame excuse. I have another who likes to be so organised she picks everyone up for a lunch out, so she knows we are on time.
My DDs fall into both camps, one with their friends who seem to be more casual and more formal with me and their father who is a stickler for keeping to arrangments and time. Can't say the same for his family after sitting until 3.45 p.m. waiting for his DB for lunch we tucked in and were just finishing as they came down the drive, they had "Slept in" believe if you will.

M0nica Thu 27-Oct-22 10:01:46

I think it is a personal thing. There have always been people who are casual and unreliable. I had an uncle (born 1910) who was generally known as the 'the late Mr Smith' because he never turned up on time for anything. My deceased sister was another known for her erratic arrival for anything.

Yammy Thu 27-Oct-22 10:18:50

Shouldn't admit it but my late MIL was exactly the same. It was even mentioned in her funeral eulogy. Someone had tipped the vicar off. It was said that DH was on time for once after making the late grand exit all her life.grin

Norah Thu 27-Oct-22 11:41:31

I must have misunderstood the question.

I think the planning bit is personality. I'm not a planner. I'm always on time. I'm never early. I do what is needed. I attend what I must.

I don't make commitments for arrangements I can't keep, I merely refuse at the asking because I am reliable and feel responsible to what I accept.

I'm a hermit with dogs and a family.

M0nica Thu 27-Oct-22 11:55:06

Norah I think you have undestood the question the same way as other people. All people are different, there are many ways of being punctual and reliable - and unpunctual and unreliable. But it is a personal thing not a generational thing

pandapatch Thu 27-Oct-22 12:10:28

Personality I think. I know people from all generations who are planners and punctual and also who are not.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Oct-22 12:11:36

I wonder if it's congenital?
My MIL and my youngest DC are very similar.
It's an irritating trait, lateness.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Oct-22 12:12:27

Neither was late for work btw. Interesting.

Disgruntled Sat 29-Oct-22 13:21:44

I thought it was to do with mobile phones. In my day (awful phrase) we couldn't cry off or change plans at the last minute, because there were no mobiles. On the whole, we made plans and stuck to them.

kircubbin2000 Sat 29-Oct-22 13:46:24

Personality I think.Friend who is always late and sometimes forgetful rang this morning. Very ill, could I take her to a and e?
Said she would be ready in 30 mins as not dressed but after an hour I rang and she was still not ready.
I imagined her collapsed on the floor but half an hour later she was ready.
Came out dressed to the nines and made up.Told her to get a taxi home.

Kim19 Sat 29-Oct-22 13:55:52

Definitely personality (and ethical) for me. My diary is my lifeline. My word is my bond. I would never be either late or absent from an appointment other than in extreme emergency. And I mean extreme. Thankfully latter has never been tested.