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Generational stereotypes (Trigger Warning for Jeremy Vine!)

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Doodledog Wed 10-Apr-24 10:14:51

Jeremy Vine is currently discussing 'Generation Zee' and whether they are workshy. He irritates me at the best of times, but on this he's utterly infuriating. He is obsessed with not being a 'Boomer' as he was born in 1965, which is on the cusp of Boomer and Gen X, and is always banging on about who belongs in which group. I think he believes it makes him seem younger than he is.

The whole thing is a marketing invention anyway, not a real 'thing'. How can there be significant differences between someone born in 1965 (Gen X), and 1964 (Boomer), and not between people born in 1965 and 1979 (both Gen X) or between people born in 1945 and 1964 (both Boomers)? It makes no sense. Some US scales include 'Generation Jones', or 'Boomers 2' which splits the Boomer generation between those born between 1945-54 and 1955-64. That makes a bit more more sense, but still ignores sex, social class, geographical differences (and luck, which IMO has the greatest influence on life chances).

I've switched off JV, as there is a ranting young woman who's representing 'Gen Zee' and is shouting down Nina Myscow, who is being very calm and reasonable about it, and I can't bear it any more (I may be a bit stressed grin).

So, having got that off my chest, what are your views on these supposed generational differences? Is it broadly true that Millennials are workshop, Gen Z are narcissistic, Boomers are selfish and spoilt, and so on, or is it a load of tosh?

Doodledog Wed 10-Apr-24 18:02:40

Callistemon21

^what are your views on these supposed generational differences?^
I daren't say, apparently being one of the Silent Generation 🤐

grin

BlueBelle Wed 10-Apr-24 18:05:38

Born as the war ended I m consider a Boomer and the first job I applied for and didn’t get I was told because it was a boom year there were far more people applying for the job So a very negative for me

keepingquiet Wed 10-Apr-24 18:05:58

More media wind ups, it makes me frustrated.

Churchview Wed 10-Apr-24 18:07:02

The likelihood of all GenX or boomer people having the same traits, outlook and behaviour is the same as all Leo or Virgo people having the same traits, outlook and behaviour.

It's all a load of nonsense created for marketing and now being used to divide a wedge between generations. It suits the media and government to encourage us to focus on those fake differences rather than the actual issues facing the country (and who is to blame for them) right now.

Lexisgranny Wed 10-Apr-24 18:19:52

I tend to catch JV when tidying the bedroom/making the bed. I have never got through his programme, but I find it a useful way to exercise my voice by shouting loudly at the screen whenever he opens his mouth. The prancing about with graphics and excruciating mimicry is pathetic and he has no control whatsoever over his very excitable guests, many of whom constantly shriek and talk over other panelists. As soon as his bicycle is mentioned the remote control is stabbed vigorously. I think a fair assessment is that whatever JV thinks/believes is the opposite of any thoughts that I might have on the subject.

After my morning performance , despite being born in the 1940s I can definitely not identify as a member of the silent generation.

Iam64 Wed 10-Apr-24 19:54:35

Vine is loathsome. His views permeate his radio 2 phone in. He patronises anyone daft enough to
Phone in.
How did he get the gig

MissAdventure Wed 10-Apr-24 19:59:41

I'm a cusper.
Who knew? grin

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 20:00:00

BlueBelle

Born as the war ended I m consider a Boomer and the first job I applied for and didn’t get I was told because it was a boom year there were far more people applying for the job So a very negative for me

No, if you were born just as WW2 ended, you're one of the Silent Generation 🙂

🤐

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 20:00:51

MissAdventure

I'm a cusper.
Who knew? grin

We're nearly all customers in my family.

Is that why we don't conform?

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 20:01:15

Oh Crikey, thanks Autocorrect
CUSPERS

MissAdventure Wed 10-Apr-24 20:03:22

I had never heard the term before.
It seems to be a big cusp, I must say.

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 20:08:28

I thought it was more related to astrology eg being on the cusp of two star signs.

annodomini Wed 10-Apr-24 20:13:14

Jeremy Vine doesn't figure in my viewing of listening schedules. I can think of better - more enjoyable - things to do with what time is left to me.
My generation doesn't seem to be alphabetized since I was born during WW2. I'm not sure where my DSs (1970s) or my DGC (from 1991 - 2008) belong. I wouldn't want to categorise any of them as work-shy, since they all found part-time work for themselves while still at school or Uni and not one of them has been unemployed since. You can tell how proud I am of them.

Casdon Wed 10-Apr-24 20:29:18

Here is the latest definition by date of birth. I’m apparently a Phase 2 Boomer, aka a Jones.
www.beresfordresearch.com/age-range-by-generation/

Doodledog Wed 10-Apr-24 20:42:25

That's the graph I showed upthread. I'm a Jones and my children are Millenials. I'm not sure that any of us fit the stereotypes at all.

Casdon Wed 10-Apr-24 20:55:14

Doodledog

That's the graph I showed upthread. I'm a Jones and my children are Millenials. I'm not sure that any of us fit the stereotypes at all.

I’ve just found out there is our own website for Jones’ - I didn’t even know I was one until I looked just now, so I’m not sure what the stereotype is yet, will have to have a look. My children are split generations, one is a millennial, the other a Generation Z - maybe that’s why they are so different - or maybe not.

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 22:25:59

Casdon

Here is the latest definition by date of birth. I’m apparently a Phase 2 Boomer, aka a Jones.
www.beresfordresearch.com/age-range-by-generation/

This doesn't make sense to me 🤔

Post War 1928 – 194579 – 96
WWII1922 – 192797 – 102

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 22:26:45

Sorry, it didn't paste properly:

Post War1928 – 1945 79 – 96
WWII1922 – 1927 97 – 102

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 22:27:19

It looks fine until it's posted!

Birthto110 Wed 10-Apr-24 22:33:20

I don't mind listening to Vine's interviews. I find he probes and listens quite well.

Doodledog Wed 10-Apr-24 22:36:18

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Birthto110 Wed 10-Apr-24 22:36:48

1963. Not a home owner. I went to university . Travelled and lived abroad a bit. I give to charity when I can. I am in paid work and probably won't be able to retire - and have always volunteered quite a bit too. Love young people and our children now in 20s have always worked very very hard and yet have no prospect of home ownership or decent savings, despite being very careful with money. We have spent many years caring for elderly relatives too. We worry most about today's youngsters and our own children and grandchildren. The world has changed and it's tougher in my humble opinion.

crazyH Wed 10-Apr-24 22:49:01

JV does interviews in the main, doesn’t he? Oh yes, he does ramble on and about the perils of cycling in London. And, the show has spawned the lovely Storm, who I expect is eternally grateful to him.

Shinamae Wed 10-Apr-24 22:57:27

paddyann54

Cant stand Vine ,bring back Matthew Wright I say or even hand the show to Alexis Conran .I rarely watch it now as his "opinions" which he's not supposed to have ,but does,irritate the life out of me .Horrible man who has no idea on ordinary life.....guess thats why he nips about on his unicycle ,shows how superior he THINKS he is !

I agree with every word..
Except its not a unicycle, it’s a penny farthing 🥹

Callistemon21 Wed 10-Apr-24 23:05:31

Doodledog

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I don't understand it.

Post War? Age 79 - 96
And WW2 97 - 102
🤔

It's putting people into boxes, trying to make out they have the same characteristics and they don't fit
It's utter rubbish.