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Which style of monarchy do you prefer?

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Whethertomorrow Tue 18-Jun-24 21:04:39

I don’t know if monarchy is the right word or not but what I’d like to ask is do you prefer the way King Charles is being King or the way Queen Elizabeth ruled?

My personal view is that I prefer Charles’ way of doing things. He comes across as very caring and kind. I think Camilla has given him love and support and he has relaxed into a much more genial figure.

I think QE was very remote and guarded, which is not a criticism of her but a result of the time and manners of when she came to the throne.

What do you all think or not as the case may be.

LucyAnna2 Thu 20-Jun-24 16:04:05

Anniebach

People are not expected to bow and curtsy, some choose to, I never have

I’ve never bowed or curtsied, but that’s mainly because I’ve never met any of the RF…….

PoorJenny Thu 20-Jun-24 16:11:23

I prefer Charles, Queen Elizabeth was too much like her mother, ran the household with an iron fist. So many lives were ruined because of the silly laws like Princess Margaret and Group Capt. Townsend just because he was a divorce they could not be together. King Edward having to abdicate due to wanting to marry a divorced woman, then there was Diana and Charles, him being forced to marry a woman he did not love and look how that turned out.

King Charles now seems to be very happy with the woman he loves. I like this new brand of royals and long may they reign.

Anniebach Thu 20-Jun-24 16:46:01

Margaret chose not to marry Townsend, the abdication was 1937, divorce was not accepted in the Anglican Church , Charles was not forced to marry Diana,

Iam64 Thu 20-Jun-24 16:48:56

Goodness - i agree with you on a royal family discussion Anniebach 😁

Anniebach Thu 20-Jun-24 16:50:41

First time for everything Iam

LucyAnna2 Thu 20-Jun-24 16:52:32

Anniebach

Margaret chose not to marry Townsend, the abdication was 1937, divorce was not accepted in the Anglican Church , Charles was not forced to marry Diana,

But Camilla is an Anglican

DamaskRose Thu 20-Jun-24 17:09:41

They were married in a civil ceremony in Windsor Guildhall and had a blessing in St George’s Chapel in Windsor, in reply to LucyAnna2.
I like the slimmed down monarchy, it was very obvious on the balcony after the Trooping the Colour. I don’t think we should be paying for their weddings etc but I do like the tradition and historical element of it. I find them interesting in many ways and wouldn’t like to see them go.

Anniebach Thu 20-Jun-24 17:15:08

I too think the number on the Balcony was fair, working royals,
the Yorks are not working royals

welbeck Thu 20-Jun-24 17:27:27

this country dodged a bullet, almost literally, re the traitorous weasel who came to be known as the duke of windsor.

M0nica Thu 20-Jun-24 19:23:07

As a young woman, Queen Camilla turned Charles down and married someone else because, like many women she did not want to be a member of the Royal family because, she did not want to live in a gold fish bowl. I think she was one of many of King Charles, and Prince Harry's girlfriends who thought the same and did a runner

Princess Diana, was very young and had, what I always thought, was a crush on Prince Charles, as he was, and did not have the maturity to think through what marrying him entailed.

We had a lucky escape with Edward VII and Princess Margaret's decision has to be seen in the context of the age she lived in. Setting aside family concrens, she would have been excluded from many sectors of society. There were whole sectors of social life where a divorce and remarriage was entirely unaccepteble. Remember Princess Margaret was a practising member of the Church of England.

Anniebach Thu 20-Jun-24 20:19:34

1973 I was shown photographs of the wedding of Camilla and
Parker Bowles by someone who had been at the wedding.
So much rubbish been printed over the years.

Camilla was very much in Love with Andrew, when they married it was thought he had settled down, no, he was a womaniser.

So many lies over many years

LucyAnna2 Thu 20-Jun-24 21:03:28

Chinese whispers
Always an element of truth
No smoke without fire
Only the people involved really know the truth

Bazza Sun 23-Jun-24 11:26:29

I totally agree with Grandma 70. I also still can’t think of Camilla as queen although I think she’s doing a good job. Why couldn’t the Duke of Edinburgh be called king Phillip? Was it a sexist thing of its time?

Philippa111 Sun 23-Jun-24 11:33:05

None!

gagsy Sun 23-Jun-24 11:36:42

I am a monarchist. I witnessed the coronation of Queen Elizabeth 11. Times were different then, but I think she did an amazing job. Yes of course she was of her time. Charles will be different as he is of his time and so on. Even if I were not a monarchist I would view the alternative as less positive, even dangerous, depending on who we got!!

biglouis Sun 23-Jun-24 11:37:27

Queen Elizabeth II was queen regnant - just like her namesake Elizabeth I and Queen Victoria. She succeeded to the job of monarch in her own right. Queens Alexandra, Mary and Camilla are queens consort because they just happen to be married to the monarch. All being well Catherine will also be a consort when William succeeds his father. Those are the rules of protocol.

DeeAitch56 Sun 23-Jun-24 12:02:48

It’s an outdated institution that needs abolishing, so personally I’d prefer having none of them

meddijess Sun 23-Jun-24 12:07:33

Responding to Charie. An 'unbiased head of state'. Like Biden, Macron, Putin even? Like the unelected people sitting over us in the House of Lords? I'd rather have an unelected monarchy thank you very much!

jan1956 Sun 23-Jun-24 12:28:59

do you think it ok for Camilla to send Chares cufflinks on his wedding day to Diana with CC intertwined? So wrong when they say "the queen2 i only think of Our queen Elizabeth

GrauntyHelen Sun 23-Jun-24 12:30:39

Im not fond of Charles and can't stand Camilla who is a terrible fidget and seems not to know how to behave ( no change there then )

pascal30 Sun 23-Jun-24 12:39:01

GrauntyHelen

Im not fond of Charles and can't stand Camilla who is a terrible fidget and seems not to know how to behave ( no change there then )

I think she possibly has an illness and can't help fidgeting.. I think she is lovely and warm and has definitely improved Charles..

Pythagorus Sun 23-Jun-24 12:40:28

Grantanow - A cheaper monarchy? I am fairly ambivalent about royalty but I do think they do a lot of good and bring revenue to our country.

I want less dependence on state handouts and less feeling of entitlement! This seems to be a one sided thing with no benefit to the country. Living around me in a fairly affluent area, I see so many taking handouts because they can, so easily available. It’s an easy option.
The monarchy give return on their income. Their wealth is in this country.
Come the revolution I guess it will go to the people! If that makes the anti monarchists dwell better!

mabon1 Sun 23-Jun-24 12:41:05

I'm a Republican, so don't give a flying fig for either type of monarchy.

merlotgran Sun 23-Jun-24 12:42:43

GrauntyHelen

Im not fond of Charles and can't stand Camilla who is a terrible fidget and seems not to know how to behave ( no change there then )

Good heavens! Are we watching the same Camilla? 🤔😐

undines Sun 23-Jun-24 12:44:52

Grantanow I agree. The vast wealth, vast expense is not justifiable
I also believe that we just cannot possibly tell what any of them are really like. All we see is the public face, which they are groomed from childhood to maintain.