Lockdown

I think the message is very clear gillybob
Only members of your own household.

You are going to make yourself ill worrying about everyone. She is not a child, she is an adult and a mother. I am worried about my DC, DCIL and DGC because they cannot self-isolate but there is nothing I can do about that. Their services are needed.

Please take care, if you shop for yourself and your DH then you could drop some shopping outside your father's door for him to pick up, but don't go near him.
Your DH is vulnerable, don't put him at risk by trying to help everyone else.

I thought I was special, Granny23 but I have heard nothing.
Zilch!

Yes Calli she is an adult and a mother but she is also my child and she’s very alone and frightened . She has no one else. I will continue to shop for my dad as I have always done but have told him it will be a once a week thing from now on . I will also shop for my DD as she would have no choice but to take the little one out with her. I managed to get some mince and sweet potatoes the other day so I have started my family batch cooking again . My family are my life .

I got the text Granny23. I assumed it was because I have underlying health issues. But, it made me feel worse than I do already, as I don't really want to think of myself as especially vulnerable.' I was self isolating anyway.

I'm wondering whether the message will get across to those immigrants who don't understand english.
I've written before about the young Romanian woman who cleans for us. A lovely girl with 2 young children - she calls us Mum and Dad. And cuddles us sometimes.
Last week she came and we told her - via her App on phone - that we might not be able to continue because of the virus. But would still pay her basic. Her eldest (5) will probably be out of school.
There must be many more like her here.

All of us over the age of 70 are classed as vulnerable, even if in the best of health. There is a list of very vulnerable people who will be notified by text.

Gillybob I sympathise. My youngest lives on his own, is working from home and it is going to be a lonely 3 weeks for him. But, needs must, at least he will be safe.

Thank you curlywhirly. I think it’s the fact that she has the baby ( well toddler) to think about that makes it so much more difficult . She will need fresh shopping .

Got a message on my mobile this morning from UK GOV. No illnesses but over 70 so on the vulnerable list and self isolating. Think it should have been done before. It so quiet here, no cars going past, no planes, no children chattering on the way to school, it feels quite eerie. Stay safe everyone, and one day, god willing, we will be back to “normal” or whatever that will turn out to be.

I’ve been told off ‘good and proper’ by my daughter this morning (WhatsApp video call) because both our sons called to see us on Mothering Sunday. They didn’t come in the house, they went into the garden through the side gate, and we went out into the garden. We stayed at least two metres away from them, more mostly. They stayed about half an hour each. They brought flowers and cards.
My daughter came on Friday bringing flowers and card. She stayed a good two metres away, and opened the door of the car so we could talk to the children, luckily sitting high up in the big four wheel drive, so we could easily see them. My daughter had sterilised all the wrapping, card, etc with alcohol wipes. We did it ourselves to the boys things. I thought we’d taken all precautions but our daughter was very cross with us. She told us there no ventilators left in our local hospital should we fall ill. I know she’s afraid we’ll get ill and possibly die, but after today’s call I feel very anxious and more afraid than ever.

Cleared my freezers today and put a drawer aside of food that needs eating.
I have also bought some stay fresh veg bags online, they really work and you can reuse them.
So meal planning is underway.

Also be aware that if you can dry clothes outside it’s far more hygienic, the sun apparently kills bugs and bacteria.

Thankfully the weather is on our side.

Yes; it did cross my mind that if I washed my clothes and dried them indoors if I hadn't washed them in a hot enough wash [which I can't do with most things] any virus on them would become airborne. Annoyingly I'd stopped using bio soap powder as I thought it was bad for the environment and I understand that's the best thing to use.

Labaik
Apparently soap powder/detergent and washing up liquid both kill Coronavirus, as does soap when hand washing. The detergent or soap breaks down the exterior of the virus cells and then they can’t survive.

Thanks maddyone; it's difficult to know what information is correct; how long the virus lasts on certain surfaces etc.

gillybob my youngest is all by herself and thousands of miles away. I know how worrying it is. But there is absolutely nothing I can do about it except worry. And if I start worrying I feel sick. She's lost a high proportion of her income too and no help from the government there at all!

At least you can do something positive like cooking for them. Well done, and that will make you feel better too.

Labaik
I’m not a scientist by any means, but that is the advice given by experts on television news programmes so I’m assuming it’s correct.

I think they said that Coronavirus has greasy exterior walls to each cell, and that’s why detergent or soap kills the cells, because detergent and soap dissolve grease.

I feel so sorry for all of you worrying about members of your family at the moment. Thankfully my SIL came back from London last night and is now working from home. I felt as if the weight of the world had been lifted from my shoulders when I heard. And my son and DIL are both working from home although DIL works for the NHS and may have to go to the hospital at some point. My son works in railway maintenance and that has all been cancelled; but surely now is the time to do maintenance work so that public transport will be safe to use when things start to get back to normal. Still confusion as to what is or isn't vital work.

Callistemon. I think, from memory, both our DDs are thousands of miles away in the same country and I empathise with the sick feeling I go through when she tells me, as she did this morning, she is feeling a bit scared. All I can do is be there for her, listen and reassure her any way I can.

My best wishes to you, you are not alone with your worries as I fully understand how you are feeling.

gilly IMO you can visit/walk with your daughter and stay within the rules, and I don't mean bending/going against the spirit, etc.

The rules say you can visit vulnerable people and your daughter and her baby sound very vulnerable, particularly if her mental health is at stake.

Of course you have to balance this against the risk to your frail DH and father - so keep 2 metres away and no cuddling would be my advice.

Gilly - Unless she has a medical condition which puts her in the isolate for 12 weeks category, your DD is free to go to the shops for food, etc and I understand you can meet your DD and little one outside and walk with them at the approved two metre distance.

DH has had that text message from Gov Health as he’s got a compromised immune system due to the medication he’s on. 12 weeks at home for us! (Its easier for me to join him than to try to jump through the recommended hoops of avoiding him indoors!)

Do the rules say you can visit vulnerable people river walk?

I’ve had a text from The govt but I don’t know why

Just remember Gilly. .. it's our army on our side.

Can your DD move in with you for a while?