Why dont people understand the words ‘stay at home’ !

Sophiesnana, I agree with you totally,I started another thread re a neighbour of mine who is a nurse flouting the rules!
It’s irritating when the vast majority are getting on with it and then the arrogant few are pretty much carrying on as normal
I have thought so much of Anne Frank, it makes our sacrifices look very small indeed!

I agree Sommerlove. Selfish and stupid! Just because people read in the paper (I wonder which one) that people are flying in from Covid-19 hotspots (isn't the UK a hotspot now?) doesn't mean they should make the situation even worse. They sound like self-centred toddlers who haven't grown up. What delightful human beings (not)!

I was merely advising that if something distresses you, take yourself away from it. I never said anyone on here was nosey. What I am trying to say is sometimes, for your own health or mind, you are better to avoid looking/watching neighbours. In a previous position I dealt with neighbour disputes, they can begin with the most trivial things and before you know it- full scale dispute that can go on for years. Sadly, the fact we are all stuck indoors for the next few months I fully expect neighbour disputes to increase. For me personally, they are better avoided, so I do not watch what they do.

It is annoying if we see people breaking the rules which will cause the NHS to be overwhelmed.

If someone I know does it I tell them what I think, but ultimately it isn't our job to dictate to them.

They are responsible for their own actions, and if we dwell on it it will upset our equilibrium, when we are aiming to stay as upbeat as possible.

yes, my neighbour has left to join his ladyfriend today. They are back and forth to each others houses. Both old btw. So be it, I hope they both stay safe

EXD, I am one of these cyclists and this is my daily exercise. There is no law that says you can only exercise for 30 minutes outdoors. As long as you are on your own, don't meet people or have to open gates I believe I am doing the best thing. Also my Dr has told me that cycling is the best exercise for me. Also at present the roads are mostly clear of cars.

The majority of us are taking advice and sticking to the rules but there will always be the selfish that think it does not apply to them.

I have seen people on gransnet saying they just want to drive a few miles to the cliffs or beach, or to visit grandchildren or help adult children who are struggling looking after their children,replies saying I think you could get away with that or agreeing that it is fine to drive somewhere as you are isolating.

What these people do not think about is how many people it is ok to do this,100 or a 1000,how far is it ok to drive 3 miles or 300 miles. Why do they think they are special.

I shall be ratty if lockdown and social distancing etc has to continue for months because of those who have selfishly carried on their social lives regardless.

I think I mentioned before that my neighbour had gone to various places for kitchen roll! When I suggested that that wasn’t essential, she replied that ‘ we’re allowed to shop’. Since then she’s out at least three times a day, shopping, exercising, and walking her dog ‘ because we’re allowed to do that’. I have asked her to stay away.
Sadly, I think people will only take it seriously when people they know, or know of, contract the virus, and possibly die.

Rosenoir, if your post was aimed at me that let me assure you I am not selfish and ignoring the rules. I use to cycle on tracks but these days there are just to many people walking their dogs and I have to touch gates to open them. So I stick to the roads. Does it matter whether I am cycling for 30 mins or 90 minutes, I am not near anyone or touching anything but my bike and the reason I use my car to go to a spot is because I live on top of bl,,,y big hill and there is no way I could cycle up it or walk up it pushing my bike.

Well my medication is now being sent to a different pharmacy to DHs which have different opening times. 1 run to the pharmacy has become 2, and now its a drive rather than a walk..

Hope the neighbours arent like you and I wont be fending off pitch forks! ?

I shall be ratty if lockdown and social distancing etc has to continue for months because of those who have selfishly carried on their social lives regardless.

It WILL go on for months, regardless.
And will feel longer and harsher witg nightmare neighbours curtain twitching through it all....

notanan I should have said "for extra months". I know it's going to continue for months, and as I have already self-isolated for nearly 4 weeks due to health problems, and I live alone so that really is isolating, I have little patience with people who can't manage a week so far.

Sorry, but the rules make sense to me and I believe we should follow them.

One of my neighbours is regularly picked up by car by her parents - her father is over 80 and her mum is probably in her late 70s. They have been advised by the tenacy support worker where I live that this is not right - the father just laughed and said that the worker was scaremongering! What will it take to stop these parents doing this? Them being ill or worse or the daughter being ill? Or one of the rest of us that live here? I can't get my mind round this situation.

Peoples "visitors" may be bathing them etc. That IS allowed, and you are allowed to drive for it. You dont know what hidden disabilities your neighbours and their friends/famikies do or dont have! There have been warnings that this kind of informal care should NOT stop as that would risk lives too!

Can y'all maybe isolate away from your twitchy curtains?

I also have to shop for both my daughter who is disabled and can't now get out of the house and my son an essential worker who finds he is unable to get to the shops in time because of his hours and both of them can't get delivery slots. So for my daughter I do a shop which will be once every two weeks, drive the 110 miles round trip, open her back door, put the stuff on the table and then go home. I have tried and tried to get help but there is no one or any charity that can help. So it has to be done and I am not happy about it. My son I do one shop put it on my driveway and he picks it up. So will my neighbours be flicking their net curtains and judging me?

I have just spoken to my elderly neighbour, who was walking to get milk. He and his wife insist on shopping daily.
When I said that at over seventy, with health conditions, he shouldn't be going out every day for shopping and that shopping is supposed to be limited to only once a week for essentials , he just laughed and said he didn't know that and off he toddled!

The reason I'm so annoyed is that he is my DGD's other grandparent and his wife, (her other gran) is still turning up at my son's wanting to visit.
My DGD is on oral steroids and vulnerable, so we are trying to keep her well.
I'm raging at him and his irresponsible wife, who refuse to isolate, saying it doesn't apply to them! ?

So will my neighbours be flicking their net curtains and judging me?

Probably!

And the people "confronting" aquaintances/strangers really think they are going to tell you their private reasons?

Why glad you asked Mrs NoseyBot, I'll HAPPILY tell you that when my hidden condition makes me faecally incontinent, I cant get myself properly cleaned up without help. Or that my mental health has taken a nose dive so although I have (as you noticed and recorded) already been out for my repeat prescription, Ive had to go back again for a higher dose. SO glad you asked.

Nope, they will give you the flippant response you deserve!

Barmeyoldbat I had not read a post by you re cycling so ,no my post was not aimed at you.

I am saying those that flout the rules have a "good reason" , but what if we all did it.

notanan2 is there no-one who could help get your prescriptions, to save you having to venture out?
Even one of your nosy neighbours, or do you not want anyone knowing you are unwell?

My neighbours have been great, leaving bread and milk on my doorstep, which has relieved a lot of stress.

I'm sorry to hear you are so upset. .

I know how difficult it is to get repeats in the present situation and as my medication keeps changing it has been really stressful.
I've already been isolating for the last last six weeks and not only is my pharmacy is another town, they keep changing the opening hours.
My future son in law goes and queues for ages and then leaves them on the doorstep.
I don't know how I would have managed otherwise.

Sorry Rosenoir, I flipped the thread and got confused. All the same I think we are all getting very hung up this going out business and as far as I can see as long as you keep to your self , keep a safe distance and wash your hands everyone should be safe.

notanan2 is there no-one who could help get your prescriptions, to save you having to venture out?
Even one of your nosy neighbours, or do you not want anyone knowing you are unwell?

How on earth does that logic work? Then THEY would be venturing out! And would have THEIR neighbours judging them.

No. Luckily I do not have neighbours who are like some of these posters. I have not been confronted about going out.

I dont see how getting someone else make two pharmacy trios is any better than going and doing it ourselves??? Please explain that makes NO sense?

Notanan, I have had a letter from NHS Scotland today, advising me that as I'm in the high risk group, that I must ask someone to collect my pharmacy items. It has been happening for weeks, anyway. This is deemed OK, if they are not in the high risk group.

There is no physical contact at all. We also have sanitisation processes in place for anything left on the doorstep.

You implied that you are in the vulnerable group, if you are, it's advisable not to put yourself at risk. However, if you are not and I have misunderstood, there is nothing to stop you going yourself. There is no need to bite my head off.

One of my neighbours, who is fit and healthy has just left a loaf on my doorstep, no contact at all. It was extremely kind of them to phone and offer. I thank God I have lovely neighbours.

I got ‘the letter ‘ too, Marydoll. I was a bit annoyed that it’s 12 weeks from today, so time served already isn’t taken into account, you know, like they do for prison sentences !
23rd of June, by my reckoning.

This is deemed OK, if they are not in the high risk group.

Well you had better tell their nosy neighbours that! And dont ask anyone who has neighbours who post on this thread!

No I didnt imply I was in the total isolation group. I said I had to go out twice to the pharmacy (instead of our usual once), and drive there too as its not my nearby pharmacy. And thank god I dont have GNers for neighbours or I would be tried and hung for it!