Neighbours Behaving Badly

Maybe not tell the landlord, but perhaps you should inform the police

I am a person that would not have reported another,,
but just heard a dear friend has caught the virus,, obviously from inside hospital.. a patient there.

now I think I would report,, perhaps the time has come when we have a duty/responsibility to report,, other than that as others have commented here... we will have our daily half hour exercise taken away from us.. there lies madness. and I fear ... what that will create in some people..

Scotmom I think I'd consider joining them?

Like many of you who are doing our best to be good citizens, I really miss my dd, dsil and dgc. We do facetime of course and when one of the parents come round with groceries, we have a brief few seconds chat. I would report in a heartbeat any clear and obvious breach of current guidance. Why would I not?

Our immediate neighbours are abiding by the ‘rules‘ although we did have a coffee with our elderly neighbours and invited them into the bottom of our garden. We have a little gate! We sat 2 m apart. They brought their coffee and we had ours.

However another person locally has had family and grandchildren round on a regular basis. When I found out I really welled Up as we will not be seeing our grandchildren which we look after 3x a week or our brand new grandson of 1 week until this is all over. ( FaceTime is ok but not quite the same) .

Yesterday a beautiful sunny day we were out gardening and had the ‘company’ of music being blared out from a nearby estate! Sound certainly travelled! I said to hubby if I could work out what it was it would be ok but it was just bass pumping away?
Obviously having a grumpy day yesterday ?

The landlord can’t evict at the moment anyway

I think if I had elderly parents living locally I would be checking on them regularly too TBH.
We had a street gathering yesterday- we live in a Cul-de-Sac & all get on very well & have regular street parties so at 4pm yesterday we all went out in our front gardens & had a glass of wine or 2 while chatting ( shouting) at a distance with neighbours. It was really nice & no-one got nearer than about 10ft. from each other. I think it did us all a lot of good & no harm done.
We are looking out for each other anyway & doing shopping for the few very elderly couples in the road.

One of the most upsetting things about the lockdown and the need to avoid mixing due to the virus for me has been discovering the horrible selfishness of some people. Just as many of you are saying, I too have learned from friends who phone me that they are continuing to mix as usual, to visit each other or go out in their cars. It has distressed me to discover the attitudes of people I called my friends.

I wonder how many of them would take in the Queen's message and will be proud of the part they played at this time when it is over? Mixing, carrying on as though nothing is happening...

I have been very lucky with neighbours, at least on one side. They are both Doctors but have a new baby so Mum is home. Dad is doing what he can at the Hospital. But they still find time to pick up items of shopping for me. I try not to ask and only let them do it when they are shopping for themselves. Last week they got me eggs which were a Godsend!

Crazygran. Your comment is exactly right in my experience. One person on the phone said "X and I are more important than other people." Thy have absolutely no reasons at all for being "more important"! They are not ill, neither are they royalty! They just look down on the rest of us.

As for bus drivers dying... that is simply unbearable. I cannot take it. To think that people are getting on buses when they have no real need! I want to put them all in prison and throw away the key. Maybe we need that slogan everywhere, inside and outside buses especially:

Is your journey really necessary?

I completely agree with you..my son works with my husband every day on the farm but lives a mile away..on his little farm and the grand kids come with him sometimes and play in my garden for a change of scene..I dont touch or hug they dont come in the house..My daughter in laws father is in a care home and she cant visit..we are very aware of the danger .But I can easily imagine some stasi minded person complaining that the kids shouldnt have a change of scene...

Absolutely - call the police. This is criminally stupid behaviour at the moment.

My neighbor is a nurse with a baby, but has her mother to visit regularly, and another couple with a baby come to call often.

I have a friend on the other side of town who had not been out of the house for three weeks or had any contact with anyone but her partner, who is vulnerable; she has just become ill with shivering, night sweats, high temperature and no appetite, everything tasting foul. Perhaps they need to catch it before they believe in it?

suziewoozie I am well aware landlords cannot evict at present. Anyway this is not the only problem the neighbours on the other side of them are cataloguing the problems, inside and out

easybee my young neighbours are inviting friends who live a journey away and excuse me if I want to wash clothes on a Sunday I will. I am not religious.

Nothing wrong with barbecues if it's just for the household and have been considering doing the same for the 3 of us under our roof. A discussion on Facebook today, sometimes taking a nasty turn, about increased cardboard, bonfires, increased call on the fire service. This is a direct result of the lockdown, with people of necessity having to have home deliveries of items, the tips being shut which means people can't take cardboard to the tips and increased domestic rubbish because of the number of meals being eaten at home rather than at work, restaurants etc. Not everyone has the space or facilities for home disposal so they are slammed for putting it out for collection, or slammed for burning it at home, so it seems that whatever people do, someone somewhere is pointing the finger and it seems no one can get it right! We're told to stay home and garden (as though everyone has gardens - not), yet those who do, get criticised for generating waste. If people do big shops to avoid going out too often, or because they're shopping for neighbours, they're accused of hoarding and putting themselves and others at risk through longer exposure time out of the home . If they do smaller more frequent trips, they're criticised for going out unnecessarily. I'm sick of hearing people niggling about each other.

My daughter drops food off for me from time to time and she brings the children - they stand at the end of the garden and we talk. It feels really odd handling with latex gloves and wiping down stuff from my daughter with Dettol wipes but better safe than sorry.
We have a garden chat with our neighbours every now and then, all well away from each other but it’s great to ‘socialise’.
I’m so grateful we aren’t in a flat. Those who are doing lockdown in difficult circumstances have my wholehearted admiration.

I go on a regular morning walk (within time and distance rules) and this morning it was noticeable how much more traffic there was. The problem is that people (idiots) see one person flouting the rules and getting away with it, so they think "if they are doing it, so will I" . It's so irresponsible and infuriating

I think that we all feel rage that when most of us (hopefully) are unhappy, but perfectly willing to cooperate, with what is being asked of us, others carry on with their lives doing whatever they like and whenever and wherever. The "it's only a bit of flu" brigade who - if left to their own devices - are not only going to bring about a situation where no one is allowed out at all, (how the hell is that even fair?) but also see the people of Britain in lockdown indefinitely. You can't fix stupid, we all know that. Or make people responsible. So, I blame the Government and the Police. There is always some excuse as to why they can't properly carry out a plan. Problem is simply that these are not "rules". Other people on this thread have used that word. The numbers of times that these have been called guidelines, suggestions, advice to follow in the papers, tv, government broadcasts. Whhhaaaaaaaaat? Are the oldies the only group who are taking this seriously?

There should be strict laws/rules which cannot be argued with, which will prevent anyone from having to think or try to interpret rules in any way which suits them. In this country - France - hardly a Police state and often very lax in the way they deal with riots etc., we have a form which we have to print or write out, every time we need to leave our homes for one of the few reasons clearly stated on the form. You date it, you put the time on it, you sign it with your name, address, date of birth etc., and you carry it with you. When you are stopped, which happens frequently because 100,000 Police are on patrol, you justify your appearance on the street by producing the paper. Or else! You better not be taking exercise further than 1km from your home, or for longer than one hour, and you'd better not be caught out regularly visiting shops or chemist or those few shops allowed to operate. And, no dawdling or gathering for conversations or sitting in the sunshine. First offence €135 and a big telling off. 2nd time - much bigger fine and prison. Simple. It's the best deterrent against roaming the beaches, sunbathing, meeting mates, etc. I'm not sure that in Britain people have grasped the fact that once you are in a household and you have isolated yourselves for 2 weeks together, you don't get to visit anyone else including other family by going into their homes - let alone have meals or days out with them. Every household who decided to be together, stays together, until this is over. Otherwise the virus just keeps on replicating and keeps us all miserable and confined indefinitely. I'd always report someone, especially if there was a hotline to do that on the basis of how dare others think that they have the right to put my life and welfare at risk. I've always told people that France is filled with those who think that rules are for everyone else! Well, mindless groups in Britain could probably turn this into an Olympic sport and they're proud of it. It has nothing to do with civil liberties. This is, please god, a once in a lifetime emergency and people need to grasp that fact, grow up, listen and be made accountable. (Rant over). Stay safe everyone.

I have two neighbours. what are not taking any notice both work but probably take the virus and spread it. Police was called to the one he just told all his friends to be quite did not say they should not be there. We did not call the police but we will probably have the after mass after it is all over because they think they got away with it. Then the woman works at a surgery she has been with strange people in her garden and going inside different people houses. I am not sorry if they get the virus.I my self are insolation for 12 weeks.

Where I live everyone is following the rules. We have a lot of family groups going for their daily walk, but that's it. I'm going to collect my prescription today but that's allowed.

fully agree, when will these youngsters get it into their heads that this is not going away unless we ALL do as told.

I must admit I’m a bit confused. My husband and I walk to the local shop for our daily exercise and to buy essentials like bread, milk and vegetables. I thought this was very responsible. We haven’t used a car since the crisis began, I haven’t panic bought and we’ve had our daily exercise. Am I wrong here?

Yes, indeed!
It's the Covid War's equivalent of WW1's white feathers

What annoys me about these reports in the newspapers is that it seems to be mostly younger people involved and they are the ones that might have first choice of a ventilator should the need arise.

Could it be that we are human beings, and being part of this species we have opinions, anything wrong with that?

Hello everyone, isn't it a lovely day. Please forgive the following,
Yesterday on a different thread a person complained that her parents didn't seem to get the urgency of the current crisis, in fact came across as very angry. I understand how anxious she must have been, trying to get her loved ones to stop going out.
I to am one of those "old people" who wont do as I'm told. My children after ranting at me and questioning my intelligence on WhatsApp have now stopped contacting me, and all because we do nothing more than follow the government guidelines. We shop on line, best we can, can't get a delivery slot for 3 weeks and have tried to register with more than 1 supermarket, so are forced to go to the shops on the odd occasion. We can't get our medications delivered as we are not classed as vulnerable enough, so have to go out for them, and we walk our dog on the street for about 1 mile and come home again. We are still looking for one of these community groups the media keep talking about to help, but as I refuse to use either Facebook or Twitter, they are hard to find. Yet when watching TV it shows younger members of society gathering in groups to enjoy the great outdoors. So just why am I being held responsible for every irresponsible "oldie", who knows. I try to remind myself my children love me and care what happens, but please any of you younger people out there who might read this, show some love, not anger, who knows, one of us may not be around to say I love you and I'm sorry in the not too distant future.

Neighbours opposite have had visitors twice, staying overnight, hugging and kissing each other, another neighbours teenagers coming and going in sports cars and next door to me left in two cars yesterday, they are still away but early this morning a delivery was made of gardening materials and then workmen turned up. So she is not worried about us but made sure she is out of the way. I am so mad they are all younger and perhaps will be treated preferentially. Having to watch if my DH wants to go outside, he is 74.