Vaccinations from next week

I am delighted that it will soon be available.

Am I nervous? Yes, maybe a bit, as it does seem to have been made available very quickly, but I think that those who are waiting to see how other people are affected by it should have to do so under strict lockdown conditions. I think it is supremely arrogant to assume that others should act as lab rats until they are satisfied that enough of us have taken the risk for them to deem it safe.

I wouldn't make it compulsory, as this would contravene Human Rights, and I think that this would be a slippery slope; but I do feel that (as with MMR refusniks) those who choose to opt out should not be able to opt into communal areas such as schools, hospitals or recreational spaces where their refusal could place those who are unable to be vaccinated at risk.

It is unlike me to be so hardline, as usually I am very much in favour of a 'live and let live' approach to life, but this is so important that I would come down very firmly if I were in a position to do so.

Great news, will have the vaccine as soon as I am notified.

Do hope my nearly 91 year old mum gets called up.
She still takes anti- cancer tablets ( cancer 7 years ago) and has high blood pressure but leads a very healthy lifestyle and has not been notified about anything at all to do with Covid 19.
She even had to arrange her own flu jab which involved sitting outside on a seat in the cold until she was called into the surgery ( my sister drove her there). She didn't mind that - she felt very safe.
But I hate it when no one thinks of her.

Definitely Bazza ? ??

biba70

EU people see the UK as being the Guinea pigs.

Well Biba at least we are first in something!

My stepfather of 88y lives on his own since my mum died a couple of years ago. He will be one of the first cohort to be offered the vaccine - but his brother will be ahead of him in the queue over in Birmingham - he’s 95y and sharp as a tack, self caring and can’t wait to be immunised!
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Thank you Alegrias for your constant effort on many threads to give informed opinion.
Thank you to all the amazing scientists throughout the world for working day and night to fight this corona virus.
Thank you to all the volunteers who agreed to be the guinea pigs. Many of these were probably taking warfarin and or statins and maybe some of those will come on to reassure others on that score.
Thank you in advance to all, including me, who will have the vaccination in order to try and eradicate this virus for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and future generations.
Thanks to Fanny for supplying the most articulate way of dealing with the daft. Anyone quoting Simon Elder shoo.

Well said LauraNorder

LauraNorder

Any over 70’s who don’t want to be vaccinated let me know, I’ll gladly take their place ??

I'll reserve my judgement till I hear that they have the vaccine.

This is fantastic news, I work in Social Care it has been an awful time, the stress has been terrible. We have had cases amongst our staff and residents but contained it and everyone has recovered. Our residents have been amazing and we have made sure visits have been happening safely but once we have the vaccination and they can hug their families it will be wonderful!!!

Just had a newsflash banner on my iPad. ... the vaccine is on its way! Just loaded onto lorries in Belgium!

‘Here we go, here we go, here we go’. .. ? ?

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Wheniwasyourage ....why when somebody has a different view point with whom you might not agree, do people like yourself start with the tinfoil slur ..how childish
Oh and by the way Coronavirus / Sars can and does mutate

This thread has brought to the surface more ignorance than I thought existed on Gransnet - though some of it (all?) is repeated from articles from writers who should know better. Why is it that Simon Elder, for example, can publish complete and utter BS ? And why does anyone with more than two brain cells believe what these fantasy merchants writes?

Before the internet and Facebook gave a free platform to anyone who could type a post, it was only people with knowledge of a subject who wrote books and articles about it. Now it seems everyone must have their fifteen minutes of circulating their personal nightmares to the world and pulling in the gulible with them.

trisher

Please, please will people stop regarding this as the end to all the measures currently in place. Even if you are vaccinated you will need to socially distance, wear a mask and wash your hands just as you do now. There is no prospect of these measures being dropped in the near future. Be vaccinated by all means but please stay vigilant
www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/coronavirus-measures-will-not-end-when-vaccine-arrives-experts-say

Thanks for the thread trisher.
Please read it everybody.
The vaccines aren't the be all and end all. We've got a long way to go still.

From the travel perspective I hope that certificates of vaccination will be available in the same way that we have them for yellow fever, hepatitis and various other vaccinations often required for travel.

''But June Raine, chief executive of the MHRA, said the approval was made using provisions under European law, which still binds the UK until the end of the Brexit transition period on 1 January.

She told a media briefing about the vaccine: “We have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January. Our speed or our progress has been totally dependent on the availability of data in our rolling review and the independent advice we have received.”

I’m wondering if it’s too early to set up camp outside the GP surgery!

This brought tears to my eyes, mainly tears of relief for my DD who is a new mum and has been suffering with anxiety. Thank goodness the end is in sight ?

Cliftonkate. You can have mine.

The BBC has announced that there will be 800,000 doses in the first delivery and most of them will go to NHS staff. Care home residents and workers will have to wait a little longer.

Wouldn’t it be great we we had the European Medicines Agency here as well. Oh, hang on a minute.

biba70

''But June Raine, chief executive of the MHRA, said the approval was made using provisions under European law, which still binds the UK until the end of the Brexit transition period on 1 January.

She told a media briefing about the vaccine: “We have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until 1 January. Our speed or our progress has been totally dependent on the availability of data in our rolling review and the independent advice we have received.”

I read that too. So many Conservative MPs are tweeting that the UK is first to deliver because it's left the EU, but it's not true. We can do this because it's under the EU’s Medicine Directive of two decades ago (2001).

We’re still in EU structures, so we can’t unilaterally change law to get round EU law.

I'm flabbergasted that the government is trying to score political points out of something like this. It's a German vaccine produced by an American company and it would appear there's been a last minute U turn about who will actually get the vaccine first.

My husband is a carer who goes from home to home, and some of his 'customers' have been discharged from hospital with Covid, so I can't wait for him to have the injection. GP's surgeries will probably not be doing the vaccinations as they have to keep you for 15 mins after you have had it to check that you are ok (new vaccine and all that) so better off in mass vaccination centres.