Oxford Vaccine approved

Mimi22

Love that you have noticed that Genty, and interested that so many pass it by even when it has been highlighted. I have discovered that 'virus' has never been isolated in it's purest form and am curious what these vaccines are actually meant to be doing if that is the case. Can't see how injecting a load of some lab based concoction into my body is going to assist my body from doing what it knows best how to do, especially when the jab is being created for something that hasn't been proven. Would love to see research into how many of those sadly dying have been living on a cocktail of drugs in advance and have been suffering a multitude of side effects from them. Often drugs are given to counteract the side effects of drugs being taken and eventually our bodies give in to the stress of that. Have also been trying to find evidence of the virus being spread from person to person via coughing/spluttering/breathing over each other. Of course we have all been told that is true, probably all of our lives. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it true though. Just because you have spent your life looking in that direction doesn't mean that you can't begin to question the validity of it. Where is the actual evidence of it? Going back through the history of medicine, I have yet to find proof. So far, it isn't showing up. Now if the spread in that fashion was not true, we are all heading in the wrong direction and if it is true, that needs proving too.

It is the shut down of any questioning, refusal to debate on equal terms, the one-sided scaremongering news reports, and 'if you don't do as you are told then you are .......' attitude that is most alarming. What has happened to curiosity? What has happened to thinking for ourselves? What has happened that those that have taken everything fed to them as absolute have become so condemning of those that are asking questions, and those seeing stuff that really feels very wrong are being stifled?

Aren't we all in this together? Don't we all want us as humans to live a kind, generous, loving and healthy life? Does anyone think that for one minute, a person questioning the narrative is doing it for any other reason than they really think this is the wrong route to be taking without fully transparent research into all possibilities and that includes the possibility that the starting point is an error?

Good to hear another point of view & from Spooky

Sparklefizz

"Having the vaccine doesn't mean vulnerable pensioners can act with 'wild abandon and go off to the bingo halls' says Deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam"

I love JVT !

Damn Van-Tam !!

That was first on my bucket list

Elegran

Which other vaccines specifically are you meaning?

Thalidomide for one, there are others that have caused injury to patients, the info is there on the internet. If this covid vaccine is 100% safe why are they offering £120,000 compensation for any injury caused by the vaccine?

Thalidomide wasnt a vaccine.

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine. And everything has been tightened up since it happened because of it. Given that the vaccine has now been approved for pregnant and breast feeding women there must have been an awful lot of research done into its safety.

If you are discussing these issues it is helpful to have some accurate information.

Galaxy

Thalidomide wasnt a vaccine.

I stand corrected on that one, I did delete but couldnt have done it properly ooops!

Comma missing from my post
It was an expletive, I was not damning Van-Tam!

I’m wondering, with the Pfizer vaccine, people have to be monitored for 10/15 minutes afterwards, I’m assuming in case of an anaphylactic reaction, as happened to two people. Does anyone know if the Oxford one will require the same? if not, drive through vaccination would speed the process up, obviously plan b for those who don’t drive.

We're supposed to sit for 15 minutes after having the flu vaccine (indeed any vaccine) to make sure you don't have an allergic reaction, but it didn't happen last time I had one.

Callistemon

We're supposed to sit for 15 minutes after having the flu vaccine (indeed any vaccine) to make sure you don't have an allergic reaction, but it didn't happen last time I had one.

I’ve never been required to sit for 15 minutes?.

Apart from this year having to distance, receiving the flu vaccine was always like a factory line. In out, In out.

I have always had to sit for five minutes after receiving the flu vaccine, and any other vaccine.

We are made of tougher stuff clearly down here in the South.

Good morning, check name and birthday, quick prick with needle, thank you and good bye

And off we go walking home

Mind you, given the circumstances I shan’t be hanging around in the surgery

I was amazed at the speed at which our nurses did flu vaccine. I think it was one every 4 minutes but they could have done it every three minutes.

Genty

Galaxy

Thalidomide wasnt a vaccine.

I stand corrected on that one, I did delete but couldnt have done it properly ooops!

But still something the doctors said to put into our body to make you better, I remember well the results!

Genty

Weve all been told that you could have covid without showing any symproms of the virus, on the NHS website it states;

"If you've recently tested positive for coronavirus – even if you have no symptoms – you should wait until 4 weeks after the date you were tested before getting the vaccine."

Its pretty clear that there should be a 4 week wait after testing positive.If you unknowingly have covid with no symptoms and are vaccinated, whats going to happen, is the vaccine still going to work? what will the side effects be?

I've heard your body would have an over reaction, an immune hyper activisation response.

I wonder if people would still be wary of having the vaccine if the pandemic was actually Ebola? We’re lucky (I use the word loosely) that we’ve had a pandemic with a virus that has a relatively low death rate. If the people dying in hospitals were dying of Ebola people would be far more careful about catching it. And we only have the vaccine for covid because the scientists were working on treatment for Zika and Ebola.

Yogagirl

Genty

Galaxy

Thalidomide wasnt a vaccine.

I stand corrected on that one, I did delete but couldnt have done it properly ooops!

But still something the doctors said to put into our body to make you better, I remember well the results!

Thalidomide was half a century ago - things have moved on and improved.

Yogagirl

Genty

Weve all been told that you could have covid without showing any symproms of the virus, on the NHS website it states;

"If you've recently tested positive for coronavirus – even if you have no symptoms – you should wait until 4 weeks after the date you were tested before getting the vaccine."

Its pretty clear that there should be a 4 week wait after testing positive.If you unknowingly have covid with no symptoms and are vaccinated, whats going to happen, is the vaccine still going to work? what will the side effects be?

I've heard your body would have an over reaction, an immune hyper activisation response.

Who said that? Where did you hear it? Was it reported in the trial results?

By the way, what is an immune hyper activisation response?

There is a medical research report on the net entitled "Mechanisms of over-activated innate immune system regulation in autoimmune and neurodegenerative disorders" but that is in people who ALREADY have autoimmune and neurodegenerative disorders - which they would know about, as they would have had evidence of them already, very clearly. If you don't have one of those disorders, you are not likely to suddenly develop it.

So what if you had caught CoVid and then came into contact with another case of it, so caught it twice? If what Yogagirl has heard (Where? Who?) is true, then a whole load of people should be dropping like flies with super-allergies because their immune systems had had TWO wake-up calls to be ready to fight it off.

They don't seem to be doing so, we would have heard all about it in the media, just the kind of thing they'd be filling the front page with. Sounds like scaremongering or fake news, to me.

Having a second vaccine shot would have had the same effect, too, if it was a real thing.

The reason for people waiting 4 weeks after testing positive for Covid is explained on page 11 of the Patient Group Directive attached. This is the guidance for health professionals. www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/12/C0956-Patient-Group-Direction-for-COVID-19-mRNA-vaccine-BNT162b2-Pfizer-BioNTech-11-December-2020.pdf

Elegran

There is a medical research report on the net entitled "Mechanisms of over-activated innate immune system regulation in autoimmune and neurodegenerative disorders" but that is in people who ALREADY have autoimmune and neurodegenerative disorders - which they would know about, as they would have had evidence of them already, very clearly. If you don't have one of those disorders, you are not likely to suddenly develop it.

That's what my Google searching came up with too. I admit I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but it does seem to me that Yogagirl's source is wrong. I could find one single case of its having happened with Covid vaccines.