You couldn't make this up could you? Wonder how they voted... Elderly Britons are REFUSING Pfizer's vaccine because they'd rather 'wait for the English one' | Daily Mail Online

I am more than happy to take the place of anyone that doesn't want any of the covid vaccines.

I agree Chewbacca, but quite a few posters on gransnet also have said they want the Astra-Zeneca one and will refuse the Pfizer vaccine - or they will let other people be the guinea pigs and have it later.

They have all been approved as safe. I just want myself and all vulnerable family members, and ultimately my children too to have any one of them as soon as possible.

Should we be so fussy? read todays figures.Worse than back in march?This virus does not pick and chose who will be next and in view of the fact we are back to square one with even more cases is down to complacency That many over xmas with heads in the sand attitude beleiving it wont effect them is why we are once again in 'lockdown'.

growstuff

I don't suppose the context of yesterday's attack in America was important either!

I disagree with you Maw. Only the wilfully blinkered could be unaware of the context of what's going on in the UK.

On the wrong thread growstuff ??

For those who just have to get in jibes about the ‘British’ or Brexit or ( as above) the US (!) I think you should realise how most posters on this thread feel judging by the posts...they want fair thread titles and people to stop riding their own hobby horses ( on every damn thread.)

growstuff

I don't suppose the context of yesterday's attack in America was important either!

I disagree with you Maw. Only the wilfully blinkered could be unaware of the context of what's going on in the UK.

Still don’t know what this has to do with the Pfizer/A-Z vaccines.,

EllanVannin

Moderna will be doing its rounds soon.

Yes!

We have been warned about American goods
(Chickens washed in bleach etc).

Should I be worried?
Should I refuse this vaccine?

lemongrove

growstuff

I don't suppose the context of yesterday's attack in America was important either!

I disagree with you Maw. Only the wilfully blinkered could be unaware of the context of what's going on in the UK.

On the wrong thread growstuff ??

For those who just have to get in jibes about the ‘British’ or Brexit or ( as above) the US (!) I think you should realise how most posters on this thread feel judging by the posts...they want fair thread titles and people to stop riding their own hobby horses ( on every damn thread.)

I didn't post on the wrong thread at all.

Did I mention Brexit? Are you getting just a tad paranoid?

Who are these "people" lemongrove? You sound like a populist.

Maybe you don't understand the reason it's being suggested these people refused the Pfizer vaccine and the context of the refusal.

I think she's reacting to the thread title. Can't imagine why what people voted was mentioned

Would you like to expand on the context of what's going on in the UK please?

If you mean other than the Brexit problems?

You may not have mentioned Brexit growstuff but it was implicit in the title of the thread by biba...’wonder how they voted’. Of course I understand the reason and the ‘context’
And see the thread as the OP pursuing a personal hobby horse, to wit, the UK leaving the EU.

This mocking of older people’s fears about vaccines is obscene and then to suggest that their voting at the referendum is suspect adds insult to injury!

My dad at 86 with underlying immune system conditions is entitled to his opinion on the safety of whichever vaccine he will eventually be offered.

He voted Remain and regardless of that would willingly take a vaccine offered as soon as it’s offered- which it hasn’t been, yet, in north Wales, because they ballsed up the system in Betsi Cadwaladr (again - they have form, 5 years in special measures)

As a nation do we enquire where all the hospital injections are sourced, or our flu injections? Everyone has a choice to take what is offered or not. I hope to be offered mine ASAP when it is my turn. GPs in our town have seemingly done all the residents and staff of all the old people’s homes and next week are starting on the housebound IF they receive supplies. They had a gap of 8days awaiting supplies.

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growstuff your posts towards lemongrove are becoming less a discussion and more a personal attack.

For what it's worth Pantglas and Lemongrove, I also asked what Wonder how they voted had to do with older people not wanting a particular vaccine but I haven't seen an explanation of its relevance yet. So I'm left with the supposition that it was probably just another opportunistic attempt to shoehorn bloody Brexit into another COVID thread, when actually it had no relevance whatsoever. awaits the cavalary

So - what happens if people refuse the Moderna vaccine on the grounds that it us American?

Will the same vitriol be targeted as at the Pfizer Ten?

Another one being ignored here! But I am used to never getting a reply to questions to this poster.

BlueBelle I thought that about the flu vaccine too. Most of us never ask who makes it. In October I was offered it by my pharmacist. I usually have it from the GP but I was picking up a prescription and it was convenient. She reassured me, when I asked, that it was the same one wherever I had it. No problems and it saved me from another risky trip to the GP and into the world of Covid.

Callistemon

So - what happens if people refuse the Moderna vaccine on the grounds that it us American?

Will the same vitriol be targeted as at the Pfizer Ten?

I think you know the answer to that Callistemon ??

We can’t set ourselves up as judge and jury as to why people
Either refuse a certain vaccine or all vaccines.
The shots will be offered to others and are not wasted.

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Well, I am more than happy to admit I read the Daily Mail most days. It is actually, journalistically, an excellent paper with very good financial and medical sections each week.

It also runs many effective campaigns for the public good. It campaigned vigorously for justice for Stephen Lawrence, Campaigned against plastic pollution and many other subjects that most GN members who despise it would support

A couple of years ago the editor changed and since then it has moved to a politically more centrist position and is frequently highly critical of the current leadership and administration. David Blunket is a regular contributor and other, more centrist Labour politicians have articles published.

No, I am neither a Conservative voter nor are my politics to the right of centre, but the Daily Mail represents the mindset and views of many millions of voters and I do not despise people because I do not agree with them politically and by reading the Daily Mail and being able to see its good points while disagreeing with its politics most of the time, I at least have an understanding of the rational of those who are politically to the right of me.

What do you think of the particular article under discussion in this thread MOnica?

It's always frustrating for medics when patients refuse certain treatments based on false information.