You couldn't make this up could you? Wonder how they voted... Elderly Britons are REFUSING Pfizer's vaccine because they'd rather 'wait for the English one' | Daily Mail Online

biba70

There is of course a context to all this- and that is the number of sites opening for 'Buy British only'. Nothing wrong with this at all, apart that those sites are very anti EU, and very pro Brexit- and the comments on there have often been very unpleasantly nationalitic and bordering on jingoism and racism- with anyone openly remain being insulted and worse.

Fortunately I am totally unaware of such sites and fully intend to keep it that way
I cannot see how a “context” is provided, but if you want to find bull sh*t, I suppose the obvious place to go looking is in a field of cattle.
However like most people I can’t imagine how or why anybody would go looking for them

If you are talking about “Buy British” in the general sense, well that would make sense if imports are likely to be affected by delays resulting from Brexit.

Have you looked at Dr Paul Williams' Wiki profile? It's just possible that he has an idea what he's talking about.

Like Mawbe I read some time ago about the protection from liability. It's not reassuring.

janeainsworth

A propos of the voting mentioned in the thread title, after denouncing the ten elderly patients who didn’t have their vaccine, the article goes on to generally have a go at the speed with which the vaccine has been rolled out.
It then transpires that the doctor who disclosed this information about his patients to the Daily Mail is none other than the former Labour MP for Stockton-on-Tees.

Just fancy that!

How surprising..............not!!!!!!!!

A propos of the voting mentioned in the thread title, after denouncing the ten elderly patients who didn’t have their vaccine, the article goes on to generally have a go at the speed with which the vaccine has been rolled out.
It then transpires that the doctor who disclosed this information about his patients to the Daily Mail is none other than the former Labour MP for Stockton-on-Tees.

Just fancy that!

millymouge

We had our second Pfizer vaccination Wednesday after 3 weeks.. Was surprised and grateful to get it as some will not get it until 12 weeks. The doctor who gave it said that they felt it was the right thing to do as that was what was recommended.

Lucky you, millymouge, you must feel relieved.

No sign of the first one arriving here yet.

It appears to be yet another sensational, attention grabbing piece by some, as opposed to factual reporting Casdon

Wonder how they voted...

What's this got to do with old biddies and the vaccine?

Ah well, so “up to ten” police officers get a vaccine due to missed appointments.
Elderly people allegedly call the ‘Oxford’ vaccine the English one.
The DM article says that the Pfizer vaccine is more effective.
Clear evidence that we Brits are all doomed.

I know Kalu, I saw it in the Metro when I was looking for something else, but it does all go back to the same incident in the North East from what I could see.

Speaking to my sister this morning,she had just come home from having her Covid vaccination, she told the nurse she was allergic to some medicines, like penicillin, and some antibiotics
She was told she would be fine unless she had had the "pen" which is I assume the one used for severe reactions
My sister is younger than me [75] so I was surprised she had got it so soon, but is on meds for high blood pressure,and also waiting to go into hospital for a possible gall bladder operation, so maybe that is why she got in so soon
She is in theBlackpool area
The one she had was the Pfizer one,and has to go for the second jab in March

Charleygirl5

To my knowledge, the only choice we have is to take it or leave it. I am happy to take the place of somebody who does not want it.

I picked up fish and chips yesterday and the owner has never had a flu jab and is certainly not having anything to do with the Astra Zenica vaccine because she does not know anybody who it has affected and/or they died. She did not understand when I said she could be asymptomatic and passing it on to her customers especially as she did not wear a mask. Folk never cease to amaze me. I would say she is mid to late 60's so no spring chicken.

I wouldn’t be buying any fish and chips from her.

Surely people aren't being given a choice, when the vaccine is free and millions of people are waiting behind the refusers for immunisation?

I was at the GP surgery yesterday and overheard the receptionist say that they are sent vaccines daily and have to ring around to make appointments for people to get them. This is going to be hard work all round, not just for the receptionists, but for all the people administering the vaccines, and everyone else involved.

If this story is true, I don't think there should be any pandering to people wanting to pick and choose. Fine, if there are health reasons for getting one vaccine or another (as suggested by a doctor), but it shouldn't be a matter of personal choice.

I couldn't care less what's being said on other websites as I have no intentions of reading them.

We had our second Pfizer vaccination Wednesday after 3 weeks.. Was surprised and grateful to get it as some will not get it until 12 weeks. The doctor who gave it said that they felt it was the right thing to do as that was what was recommended.

It’s getting very tedious, posters who drag the B word into everything.

That is not an order btw

It's just a big SIGH

What a load of predictable b*****s

Buy British Vaccines

There is of course a context to all this- and that is the number of sites opening for 'Buy British only'. Nothing wrong with this at all, apart that those sites are very anti EU, and very pro Brexit- and the comments on there have often been very unpleasantly nationalitic and bordering on jingoism and racism- with anyone openly remain being insulted and worse.

Thank you Casdon. The link shows this was reported in mainly North East of England local newspapers so not newspapers I was aware of or read.

biba70

How is this 'sensationalist'???

People are desperate to get the vaccine- and these people are just turning them down because they want 'the British one'? Shocking, yes.

It would only be shocking if the vaccine was wasted.

I'm sure the people who received it instead have no complaints.

Perhaps these ten elderly people had read all the research papers and had decided that they preferred the way in which the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine works, which is slightly different to the way in which the Pfizer vaccine works.

biba70

How is this 'sensationalist'???

People are desperate to get the vaccine- and these people are just turning them down because they want 'the British one'? Shocking, yes.

It is sensationalism because, apparently, it was TEN people who said they would prefer the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine.

1.26 million people have so far been vaccinated in England, proportionately ahead of most other countries.

Not all will be elderly but most are.

I’d prefer the Oxford one, because it’s that much easier to store and so more likely to be available at my GP just down the road.

Plus it’s considerably less expensive - I read £3 per dose as opposed to £15. And I saw a (to me) very distasteful piece in the Times some time ago, saying that the owners of Pfizer etc. stood to make colossal amounts of money out of it.

I don’t suppose I’ll be give a choice, though.

Xxxxx Tue 05-Jan-21 09:58:44
Yes xxxxxxxx100% agree with you
One concern I do have is the long term effects of this 'rushed' vaccine! No one knows if this vaccine will cause any side effects in years to come.
Both companies of the vaccine have been granted protection from future product liability claims related to covid, meaning patients cant sue for damages! Ruud Dobber a member of Astras senior exect team said " This is a unique situation where we as a company cannot take the risk if in 4 years time the vaccine is showing side effects. In the contracts we have in place we are asking idemnification.
And we are being told the vaccine is safe

This appeared on GN just a few days ago.
I have redacted the names to spare blushes.

Is it altogether surprising if 10 old dears out of over 900 somewhere in the NE of England are sceptical.
I can’t find the exact posts but I clearly remember reading of 2 GN members who expressed scepticism of the Pfizer vaccine and said they would prefer to wait for the “Oxford one”.