Son and wife not having the vaccination

Franbern well said.

Those who won’t be vaccinated are putting themselves at risk. At the moment though they see themselves as safe because we are all lining up for ours.
However.
Turkey is allowing travellers from India to transit and holiday there before flying back to the U.K. without the need to quarantine. You can pop back from Dubai via Athens, I think they are coming back via Nairobi too but I don’t know anyone who has done that. People from here will start travelling and we are not free of risk. Some chap, ex management with Etihad has just been fined £10,000 for flying back from Abu Dhabi via Switzerland. He has dual Ausralian and British nationality so used both of them to get back.

With idiots like that we still have to be careful. It hasn’t gone yet, Sydney has 2 new cases.
I have had so many vaccines over the years and my money is on that route.

Franbern, you do you.

The last time I got a vaccine to be socially responsible as well as protect myself I ended up suffering the side effects for a year afterwards. I'm now more circumspect about any vaccine in my future, not just this one. I'm not prepared to risk going through anything like what I went through again to make someone else feel more comfortable. I'm not saying I won't have it, just not yet.

CafeAuLait my husband had the jab around 6 weeks ago and hes not been well since! If people have had their jabs why are they so worried about those who dont?

Sorry to hear that Biscuitmuncher. I hope your husband recovers soon. 6 weeks is a long time to be unwell.

Covid is a killer! I recognize the right of people to refuse it . However if no one had the vaccine, then God help us all! We are so fortunate to have such amazing researchers who have produced the vaccines . People who decline the offer of vaccination are relying on others who do to keep them Covid free- I hope they are not disappointed!! I was very pleased to have the vaccination the vaccine roll out has been remarkable in the UK and I am most grateful for that. We have a friend who has refused , vaccination, his wife is not happy with him!! Please, any refusers out there do reconsider your decision.

I don't think that you are being unreasonable but everyone had to make their own choice. My Dil has refused the vaccine too, we we however continue to see her in line with the current restrictions. We have had both jabs and have done what we can. We ate very wary about the current situation and don't feel it's as rosy as we are being led to believe.
Having said that we have to live our lives in Covid times and doing what we think is best.

Firstly, I totally understand why some people are reluctant to have the vaccine. Luckily in the UK take up is high.

My adult children are actively looking forward to getting theirs.

I've had mine and was fine apart from sleeping for about 5 hours after having it which was nothing but pleasant.

However, we must remember that the vaccine doesn't actually take in everyone who has it. So people who are vaccinated can still catch this virus and possibly be quite ill. They can also pass it on.

A very small amount of people admitted to hospital with Covid had had the vaccine.

I'm a great advocate for MMR due to seeing first hand the horrors that measles can cause to a baby.

I think that 3% of children who have the MMR jab are not covered for whatever reason.

So whilst I am totally opposed to mandatory vaccines we must remember that there is still a possibility of catching it and passing it on.

I'm no expert on vaccines, I think someone on this site is, so hopefully she'll be along to explain what I'm trying to say in better terms!

If my children had decided not to vaccinate I'd still see them though and having them in the house. But it's entirely your choice.

I think you'd probably be more likely to die in a car crash en route to your family than die of vaccine side effects though .

Shelflife of course covid is a killer and is scary. But it isnt a killer of everyone

I agree it is not a killer of everyone and I know vaccination is not 100% successful. People who are vaccinated can still catch Covid. However for me it was the sensible thing to do and the best option for keeping myself , family and everyone else as safe as is possible.

My DD said she’s not having the vaccinations. It’s her choice and I respect that. She’s not against vaccinations. She always has a bad reaction to the flu vaccine and that’s one of her worries about having the covid vaccine after reading about all the side effects. My DS had his first vaccination a week or so ago and spent two days in bed feeling absolutely awful. I’ve had both doses and the only side effect was being very tender around the injection site. I’ll still visit my daughter. She knows all the risks by not having it.

Just read that Covid community infection is out of control in Moray. House to house testing is going to have to be done. We must remain vigilant and not complacent if not for ourselves then for others who may be more vulnerable than they realise.

They have now decided to offer the 30's and under a different vaccine To AZ. They did not say that a few weeks ago. I would agree with your son and DIL/ Certainly be very cautious.

love0c the under 40s I believe.

That was a few weeks ago. Now it has been changed to the under 30's.

Humptydumpty My apologies! the under 40's. Not reading back what I type! That was my point to the OP. Clearly more info is coming out regarding these vaccines. To think just a few weeks ago they were saying 'perfectly safe for all ages'' and now??? Her son an DIL are correct in my opinion not to have any vaccine at the present time. OP should feel glad they have made this decision. I hope my adult children give them a miss.

The risks of dying from Covid even for people in their 20's and 30's is many magnitudes higher than the risks of vaccination. WHO still strongly recommend vaccination for all adults. We probably all take paracetamol if we have a headache or aches and pains. Have you read the possible side effects? It is all about statistics and risk management.

People are absolutely entitled to refuse the vaccine, I am completely opposed to compulsory vaccination. However people are also entitled to choose who they spend time with, who they have visit their houses. So I try not to judge those who refuse vaccines but I would most certainly not judge those who didnt want to spend time with those who refused the vaccine.

Please tell me more about the tablet form of vaccine being developed. I have an adult autistic son who we can't get the jab into. Point blank refuses and we are unable to explain the importance to him as his autism is severe. Dr tried twice but he got very agitated and started to bite his own arm in distress. Very worried for his well being.

They are entitled to refuse the vaccine it is their choice.Just as you are entitled not to meet them indoors But the chances of you getting from them is negligible in my opinion but you must do what you feel is best for you.l for one would not avoid my family because of this.
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They love their holidays abroad so I will wait and see

I wish I hadn’t had the vaccine (I’ve had both). The inflammation (and pain) in my body has got much worse since.

People have the right not to. I was unsure, but was told by work that I had to; I wish I’d just found another job tbh.

What is their reason for not having it.

Maybe withdraw childcare saying that you feel unsafe.

Everyone has a right to making their own decisions on this. However, I would feel the same as you. Do you know why? I have absolutely no time whatsoever for those who believe in the silly conspiracy theories. Some people are say that the reason for not getting the vaccine is that they don't know what's in it. Before the average person leaves her bathroom in the morning they will have put at least a 100 chemicals on their body- shampoo, conditioner, creams, make-up, etc etc.

I am vax hesitant - but have had 1st jab!
When your out and about You will never know who has had it or not! I doubt they would rock up at your house with a sore throat or cold and maybe learn to trust in the fact they wouldn’t harm you knowingly. It’s their right not to have it.

Sorry to hear that Missingmoominmama. I hope you recover from that soon. I worry about that as well. If you are willing to share, how old are you roughly and which brand vaccine did you have?