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Dominic Cummings

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Daisymae Wed 26-May-21 10:42:09

Anyone watching live? Wow, just wow.

PippaZ Fri 28-May-21 12:11:26

Midwifebi6

I really don’t think it will make any difference at the next general election what Cummings said or the lies that Johnson or Hancock tells or told, with the majority Johnson has he will win power again. I have always been a Labour voter but I could not vote Labour with the likes of Diann Abbott and kier Starmer, she tries to stir up racial tensions and calls for the police to be defunded and Starmer taking the knee and banging on about BLM.
Look on YouTube
Alex Belfield-THE VOICE OF REASON
(Evil BBC Fail Car Crash BLM interview Backfire.
For the truth.

Personally I have no wish to see your YouTube video as you give quite a good ideas of what it is likely to be. It may be your truth but I really doubt it will be mine.

As for Johnson, I don't think anyone can be sure about the next election.

MayBee70 Fri 28-May-21 12:18:01

Doesn’t sound like a lifelong Labour voter to me hmm.Think I’ll give that a miss.

growstuff Fri 28-May-21 12:19:25

Midwifebi6

I really don’t think it will make any difference at the next general election what Cummings said or the lies that Johnson or Hancock tells or told, with the majority Johnson has he will win power again. I have always been a Labour voter but I could not vote Labour with the likes of Diann Abbott and kier Starmer, she tries to stir up racial tensions and calls for the police to be defunded and Starmer taking the knee and banging on about BLM.
Look on YouTube
Alex Belfield-THE VOICE OF REASON
(Evil BBC Fail Car Crash BLM interview Backfire.
For the truth.

Err ... no ... Alex Belfield is not somebody I could ever take seriously:

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/alex-belfield-latest-who-is-the-voice-of-reason-youtuber-and-what-he-said-on-twitter-about-the-bbc-and-arrests-3102138

Kayteetay1 Fri 28-May-21 12:19:41

It was the best tv drama in years. Despicable man, despicable ill prepared government. Both as bad as each other.

growstuff Fri 28-May-21 12:24:01

Kayteetay1

It was the best tv drama in years. Despicable man, despicable ill prepared government. Both as bad as each other.

I don't think Cummings has ever given two hoots whether people like him. You only have to look at how he dressed to realise that he wasn't the slightest bit bothered about how people judged him. I always thought that the way he dressed was part of a carefully constructed image, so that people did think he was a "baddie".

The issue is how much of what he claimed is true - I actually think much of it was.

Shortlegs Fri 28-May-21 12:25:09

No axe to grind then? Sad little man.

homefarm Fri 28-May-21 12:26:58

He only told us what we already knew

bmacca Fri 28-May-21 12:46:57

He did indeed tell us what we already knew. It's not just Boris Johnson who takes the blame. It includes Cummings as he went along with it until he lost the power struggle inside no 10. It's those of his cabinet who went along with it. It is the MPs sitting behind him in the Commons who would rather keep the status quo. It is those sitting opposite who turned their attention on Jeremy Corbyn instead of aiming it where it should have gone. It is the opposition lead by Keir Starmer frightened to move unless popular opinion forces it in that direction. It's the media and others who used their time and efforts to draw attention away from Johnson. It is the voting public which still backed Boris Johnson no matter what. If any one of those groups had stepped up it might have been a different scenario played out.

craftynan Fri 28-May-21 12:51:03

I’ve skipped a lot of the comments so apologies if this has already been said. I just keep thinking that, regardless of who is telling the truth and who isn’t, I would never, ever consider employing someone as untrustworthy as DC.

Dylant1234 Fri 28-May-21 13:01:22

It was riveting from start to finish and confirmed my impression of what had been going on from the start.

growstuff Fri 28-May-21 13:06:51

craftynan

I’ve skipped a lot of the comments so apologies if this has already been said. I just keep thinking that, regardless of who is telling the truth and who isn’t, I would never, ever consider employing someone as untrustworthy as DC.

It depends what job needs doing.

He didn't change overnight, so maybe the question is why Johnson employed him in the first place.

Nanette1955 Fri 28-May-21 13:11:41

Goodness what a lot of absolute rubbish! This is a man who advised the government and in his own words was unfit for the job, so he would have been one of the protagonists. Nasty piece of work

Kali2 Fri 28-May-21 13:13:02

This made me laugh (and cry) today- no idea who wrote it

THE NEWS THIS WEEK.

A liar has accused liars of lying. The liars responded by lying and said the liar was lying. This news was brought to you by liars who have lied about the liars and the liar, but please keep reading our lies, voting for the liars and above all, keep believing the lies.

katy1950 Fri 28-May-21 13:32:13

I wouldn't believe a word he said he's been sacked I'm sure his recollection would have been different had he still had his job

Helenlouise3 Fri 28-May-21 13:53:53

Shame he didn't do this before the last election!! People might have thought twice about where they cast their vote. He obviously has his own agenda but I wouldn't mind betting that at least half of what he's said is true. I don't know why but I've never liked Hancock he gives me the impression of being very sly. I'm sure there's a lot more to come.

PippaZ Fri 28-May-21 13:57:10

growstuff

Kayteetay1

It was the best tv drama in years. Despicable man, despicable ill prepared government. Both as bad as each other.

I don't think Cummings has ever given two hoots whether people like him. You only have to look at how he dressed to realise that he wasn't the slightest bit bothered about how people judged him. I always thought that the way he dressed was part of a carefully constructed image, so that people did think he was a "baddie".

The issue is how much of what he claimed is true - I actually think much of it was.

I must have missed something. What was wrong with how he dressed?

Callistemon Fri 28-May-21 14:12:46

I must have missed something. What was wrong with how he dressed?

Nothing whatsoever
If you're going for a run.

I always thought that the way he dressed was part of a carefully constructed image, so that people did think he was a "baddie".
I wouldn't be surprised if he'd kept a tailored shirt, smart trousers and leather lace ups in a locker at No 10 and just changed clothes for the cameras.
carefully constructed image

Kali2 Fri 28-May-21 14:14:56

What about the PM? Now there is a dress code and a half- and his hair! Makes Cummings look very stylish!

TanaMa Fri 28-May-21 14:34:49

D.C. is no different from any other politician irrespective of the colour of their banner - why tell the truth when it may hurt you - lies are the tools of the politician's trade!! As someone who broke the rules at the beginning of the lockdown with pathetic excuses, I wouldn't believe him if he told me today was Friday!

Caro57 Fri 28-May-21 14:40:37

It’s all very well these people moaning and criticising what was / wasn’t done. It would be interesting to hear what they would have done in the circumstances at that time - not with hindsight

dizzygran Fri 28-May-21 14:48:18

I watched most of it - can't stand the lying toad. Johnson should have never employed him - makes Johnson look even worse. But given the choice of Corbyn or Johnson there was no alternative and I am disappointed in Keir Starmer's lack of personality - seems dead from the neck up. Let's hope things improve.

PippaZ Fri 28-May-21 14:57:39

Kali2

What about the PM? Now there is a dress code and a half- and his hair! Makes Cummings look very stylish!

I have to admit that was the thought that came to my mind when I saw the criticism. Dress is a funny old thing though, isn't it? I have a feeling DC's style says exactly what he wants it to say.

Mollygo Fri 28-May-21 15:15:13

Caro57

It’s all very well these people moaning and criticising what was / wasn’t done. It would be interesting to hear what they would have done in the circumstances at that time - not with hindsight

? Never going to happen. Every claim now owes at least a little to hindsight. Even saying at the time, “I wouldn’t have done ‘that’. You should have done ‘this’” was based on actions that had taken place.
I can’t see how hearing someone who lied when it suited him, saying the government is lying suddenly makes him truthful and trustworthy.
Everyone has learnt how to do it better next time.
However, there are aspects of what went on that still need investigation and that’s what I’m waiting for.

lemongrove Fri 28-May-21 15:21:49

Hear hear Mollygo ??

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-May-21 15:31:53

You could possibly get away with that argument over the first covid wave, but by the second and subsequent you simply cannot use that argument. Indeed it is a tenuous argument at best even for the first lock down. Johnson had access to the best minds in the world for advice, together with the knowledge of what was happening in other covid hotspots in the world and the success or not with which it was being dealt with.
Much of his comments seemed very much like Trump’s remarks at the time.

There is no evidence that Johnson learnt from his mistakes, indeed, June is looking problematic, as we know that lockdown is anathema to him, regardless of the suffering not locking down might cause and he has been dragged into one, each time against his will.

“Let the bodies pile up”