COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day (Zoe Covid Study)

No Maybee i believe they may help with 100% compliance but with most not wearing a mask wearing one myself is not going to protect me to any extent and trusting one to do so unless it was a FFP2 would be perhaps a little hopeful

rosie1959

Masks are still mandatory in Wales yet their infections went sky high I believe
I think the government would now find it harder to reintroduce mask wearing I think compliance would be reduced especially as rates have not increased by significant amounts
Although they are popular on GN obviously not so much in the general public or more would be wesring them
I only noticed when I was away as I don't usually go places indoors when I am at home

It's not very likely that mask wearing has contributed to the increase in infection rates in Wales. If masks weren't mandatory, the infection rate would probably been even higher.

Wales has some of the worst poverty hotspots in the UK with significant numbers in over-crowded housing. It's likely that children have caught Covid in school and brought the infection home, where masks are almost certainly not worn. Unless each individual has his/her own bedroom and bathroom, it's very difficult to self-isolate properly.

No I am also sure Growstuff that mask wearing has not contributed to the increase in infection in Wales but it hasn’t stopped cases increasing The infection rate could have been higher without them who knows

Can you prove that they haven’t prevented hospitalisations and death?

rosie1959

No I am also sure Growstuff that mask wearing has not contributed to the increase in infection in Wales but it hasn’t stopped cases increasing The infection rate could have been higher without them who knows

How do you know they haven't stopped cases increasing?

It stands to reason they're not perfect, but have prevented some spread of droplets.

Of course, if you can prove otherwise ...

Don't forget that the majority of transmission takes place in the home.

Maybee I am not trying to prove anything just my opinion
Vaccination is far better at preventing hospitalisation or death
Even JVT said this morning the masks provide little protection to the wearer especially when compliance is low Surgical masks are not designed to protect the wearer but to protect people you meet. I feel testing is much more important you can’t infect others with something you don’t have I always test myself before associating with unknown people

I agree with you that vaccinations are better at preventing hospitalisations and deaths. However, they don't stop people catching Covid in the first place.

You need to test yourself before you meet anybody, not just unknown people. You need to be sure they've tested themselves too. You are actually more likely to be infected by somebody you know.

Masks aren't the whole answer, and I don't think anybody has pretended they are, but they do reduce transmission by creating a barrier fairly cheaply and easily. There is some evidence they prevent the wearer from breathing in some infected particles, so they can offer some protection.

That is true about testing Growstuff but totally impractical to test before I meet anyone I know That would be my family who turn up at random times through the week I can’t rush off and test before seeing them they would think I had lost my marbles

Although they are popular on GN obviously not so much in the general public or more would be wearing them. I only noticed when I was away as I don't usually go places indoors when I am at home.

Same here talking of being away and noticing it more rosie1959. When we were here in Cornwall in May everyone was wearing masks, on the outdoor ferry too. Infections were very low. Now back in Cornwall again this week far fewer are wearing masks and no one at all bundled together on the ferry, yet cases are some of the highest in the country. I appreciate the rules have relaxed but why don't people use their brains a bit and keep going with this practice?

Why do you need to rush off anwhere, if you have a box of tests at home?

Who cares about other people thinking you have lost your marbles?

You are more likely to be infected by any of your visitors than somebody in a shop.

I didn’t mean rush off literally Growstuff my tests are upstairs
But no way am I going to test ask my children to wait 30 mins for results that would just be daft I am pretty sure most people don’t do that either
If they infect me then so be it we are all likely to catch it at some point If I was that paranoid about someone passing it on I would never go anywhere our business is run from our house with people in and out frequently

rosie1959

No I am also sure Growstuff that mask wearing has not contributed to the increase in infection in Wales but it hasn’t stopped cases increasing The infection rate could have been higher without them who knows

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/23/covid-testing-failures-at-uk-lab-should-have-been-flagged-within-days
The Wolverhampton testing lab failure would have covered Wales. So probably reason for high cases there.

Yes could well have done Juicywords

Three out of four countries in the U.K. are down Scotland up by approximately 1,000

Deaths are still going up though.

rosie1959

I didn’t mean rush off literally Growstuff my tests are upstairs
But no way am I going to test ask my children to wait 30 mins for results that would just be daft I am pretty sure most people don’t do that either
If they infect me then so be it we are all likely to catch it at some point If I was that paranoid about someone passing it on I would never go anywhere our business is run from our house with people in and out frequently

I refuse to be so defeatist. If you want to catch it, it's up to you, but I'm determined I won't. Don't expect any sympathy.

growstuff

Deaths are still going up though.

Yes because hospital admissions and deaths lag behind Covid cases by anything from 10 days to three weeks.

Wearing a mask is hardly difficult.

The reason cases are down is almost certainly down to half term, and children not being tested. I think we should wait until next week for a true picture.

I don't wish to catch it Growstuff but it depends on how much you are prepared to give up to avoid it and how busy your life is with work children and grandchildren
Certainly would not want any sympathy but then again millions have caught it were they all defeatist or just going about their normal daiky life

Juicywords

The reason cases are down is almost certainly down to half term, and children not being tested. I think we should wait until next week for a true picture.

The number of tests per day has decreased by about 2% over the last week, and has started to rise again.

The number of reported positive cases has decreased by nearly 10% over the same period.

Ergo....

Thanks GG13 ✅
Good to have the latest info.

Just for the avoidance of doubt, reported cases in Scotland were up by 1,000 but yet again, there's been a reporting lag with the cases so the 3,495 reported cases cover more than one day. The Scottish average is about 2,600 per day.

Alegrias1

Just for the avoidance of doubt, reported cases in Scotland were up by 1,000 but yet again, there's been a reporting lag with the cases so the 3,495 reported cases cover more than one day. The Scottish average is about 2,600 per day.

Thanks Alegrias1 I am not firing on all cylinders at the moment (three weeks of chest infection/cold/asthma flare up) just dipping in and out.