John Cleese and Andrew Graham Dixon

Well, that's Sky News put back in their place!

Glorianny

No idea if anyone is doing that to JKR she does have her own production company and keeps quite a firm hand on what they do so I can't imagine she isn't able to create any 'art' at all. I don't think it is usual for authors to be involved in the publicity for films made from their material, in fact you rarely see the original author at all. So actually nothing new.

How does this response connect with the death threats? Creating art when experiencing death threats is likely to be more of a challenge I’d have thought.

I was commenting on the article posted which doesn't I think mention death threats.
They are of course wrong but seem to be standard problems for any women in the public eye now.MPs in particular are subjected to them www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/sexist-insults-abuse-death-threats-expect-all-this-and-more-as-a-female-mp

And of course MPs have not JKRs financial resources and need to be out and about in public in order to do their job.

Death threats are indeed wrong. Describing them as ‘standard problems for any woman in the public eye’ seems to be part of the problem. I’m sure you don’t mean to normalise, or minimise death (or rape) threats to women.

I was commenting on the article posted which doesn't I think mention death threats

Eh??? See post @ 18.11

Such is the intensity of the debate, Rowling revealed earlier this year that she's had so many death threats she could wallpaper her house with them after trans activists doxxed her (meaning they published her address and personal information on the internet with malicious intent).

See, this is where I have a problem. On the one hand we're being told but even then (trans) they walk in fear of rejection or even violence every day of their lives. But then we're told that it's standard problems for any women in the public eye now.

So, from these 2 statements, it appears that the trans community are fear of their lives, just going about their daily business and that's a terrible way to live - which it most definitely is. But women who live with receiving death threats on a daily business? Meh. Standard problem. Get over it.
Hmmmm.... I wonder where the distrust and discontent is emanating from?

I don't think saying it is a standard problem is accepting it, but feel free to draw your own conclusions false as they may be, It is saying that it is a threat a lot of women face on a daily basis and that JKR is one amongst many. Why she is singled out as different or someone special I don't know. Nor can all the death threats be connected to trans people they are mostly made by unstable people who choose to use social media to say things they wouldn't say personally. It is a problem but it isn't JKR's problem alone, nor is it a problem caused by the transcommunity. But what happens if you draw attention to the problem faced by more women, who have neither the resources nor the ability, because of their jobs, to protect themselves? You get castigated for using a word and accused of dismissing it. I'm not dismissing it just pointing out that JKR is by no means as special, or the threats made to her as unusual, as some like to pretend. So it isn't trans people doing this it's unstable individuals for all sorts of reasons.
I haven't by the way said get over it. I have questioned if it is more of a problem for a working MP rather than a millionaire

Chewbacca

^I was commenting on the article posted which doesn't I think mention death threats^

Eh??? See post @ 18.11

*Such is the intensity of the debate, Rowling revealed earlier this year that she's had so many death threats she could wallpaper her house with them after trans activists doxxed her (meaning they published her address and personal information on the internet with malicious intent).*

By the way JKR's address has always been widely available from the mansion she sold in Edinburgh to her present address which I found in one google. Not published by any activist.

By the way JKR's address has always been widely available from the mansion she sold in Edinburgh to her present address which I found in one google

So what??? I don't care if JKR's home address is written in flashing neon lights, with a huge arrow pointing down at it; the fact that TRA's and their allies feel it's perfectly acceptable to stand outside her home, shout obscenities and send her death threats through the post isn't an acceptable way for anyone to voice their disagreements with her or anyone else. But that's the same tactics that the same TRA's and their allies use to intimidate, silence and threaten the women leaving their peaceful discussion groups in Bristol and Manchester isn't it? Threats, violence and thuggery is their default reaction towards women. Not exactly the way to persuade any woman to stand beside and support them.

No, and anyone believing that they 'just know' they're a woman is very wide of the ark if they think that thuggery like that is typical female behaviour - it really isn't.

That is maybe something else to worry about. If the notion of what is usual behaviour for women comes to include that sort of violence and threats, will that seep into expectations and normality for all of us?

Well the crime stats for women are already being skewed Doodledog. Odd that innit?

Chewbacca

^By the way JKR's address has always been widely available from the mansion she sold in Edinburgh to her present address which I found in one google^

So what??? I don't care if JKR's home address is written in flashing neon lights, with a huge arrow pointing down at it; the fact that TRA's and their allies feel it's perfectly acceptable to stand outside her home, shout obscenities and send her death threats through the post isn't an acceptable way for anyone to voice their disagreements with her or anyone else. But that's the same tactics that the same TRA's and their allies use to intimidate, silence and threaten the women leaving their peaceful discussion groups in Bristol and Manchester isn't it? Threats, violence and thuggery is their default reaction towards women. Not exactly the way to persuade any woman to stand beside and support them.

The article said her address had been maliciously leaked to the public, but it hadn't. It's fine to complain about people's actions but a little truth always helps things.

I see that raising the fact of death threats to other women has to be ignored for the chance of another trans rant. Death threats are always wrong but ignoring those made against some women because they just don't fit in with your perceptions of what is happening is totally wrong. You have no evidence of who has threatened JKR or if any of the same people are threatening women MPs. You simply assume you know because of personal prejudices. It is perfectly possible that unstable people use any excuse to justify the threats they are making and tailor those threats to each individual. So the problem is not a trans problem it's a problem for all society.

No one is denying we have a problem with violence in our society. Particularly an issue of violence towards women, committed by men.
To try and dismiss concerns about the behaviour of some trans activists because of the general threats towards women is sinking low. Trans women who threaten to rape women to death with their ‘lady penis’ is definitely a trans issue.

There is an issue to be explored when women are threatened for expressing an opinion. In the way I would be flagging it up if/when women were being targeted for expressing views on abortion or views on the royal family.

Galaxy

There is an issue to be explored when women are threatened for expressing an opinion. In the way I would be flagging it up if/when women were being targeted for expressing views on abortion or views on the royal family.

Yes, and when we are prevented from talking about one subject because of our opinions on another.

No one is "preventing" you simply pointing out that your views are not only obsessive but that you have no evidence to support them. That the people who pretend to be TRAs and threaten JKR may well be the same people who threaten other women in other guises. And that the same problems you post for JKR actually exist for other women and in particular MPs. Jess Phillips for example received over 800 rape threats. And forgive me but I find the abuse and threats made to women MP"s who are our elected representatives far more important than those made to a millionaire writer.

What does her wealth have to do with it? How bizarre.

Have you read the news lately, Glorianny? Julie Bindel was prevented from speaking about MVAWG in Nottingham because of her views on trans issues, and is suing Notts council.

Perhaps check your facts before posting?

Galaxy

What does her wealth have to do with it? How bizarre.

Her wealth provides her with degrees of protection other women don't have.

It protects in some ways and makes her more vulnerable in others. She is absolutely more vulnerable to assault for her opinions than I am for example.

Glorianny

Galaxy

What does her wealth have to do with it? How bizarre.

Her wealth provides her with degrees of protection other women don't have.

That's a very different stance from the one saying that abuse and threats to her are less important than those made to other groups, though.

Doodledog

Have you read the news lately, Glorianny? Julie Bindel was prevented from speaking about MVAWG in Nottingham because of her views on trans issues, and is suing Notts council.

Perhaps check your facts before posting?

Julie Bindel has said she will sue Notts council she hasn't yet started any action, so please check your facts before posting.
I really don't see what this has to do with death threats to JKR and women MPs.

Her wealth is one of the reason for the threats in my view. Its beyond irritating to them that her wealth means that cancellation doesnt have quite the same affect as it would on an author just starting out.

Doodledog

Glorianny

Galaxy

What does her wealth have to do with it? How bizarre.

Her wealth provides her with degrees of protection other women don't have.

That's a very different stance from the one saying that abuse and threats to her are less important than those made to other groups, though.

But if you constantly go on about her and the threats as if she is an exceptional case and ignore the abuse and death threats made to other women what else are you doing except making her special and therefore more important? You don't have to say she's more important to make her appear so.