Prince Harry and a vegan diet.

Agree with Merlotgran, unfortunately Prince Andrew does look as if he has scoffed all the pies, some smashing posts. If there is a vegan recipe that is delicious please someone post it. I worked in a large professional team with three veggies and one vegan, you could feel quite uncomfortable at shared lunches. What was the Shaker movements founder called? Agree but without the need for celibacy now.

We have got teeth for eating meat so will be healthier if we eat some regularly, but more veg is a good way to go.

A friend told me about a young refugee boy who was visiting and she asked him what was his favourite food. He did not know what to answer. 'All food is good' he said and she felt ashamed.

The planet is doing alright. It will survive after us. Whether we survive it is the question and we are letting off gas just like the cattle and pigs and poultrey.
I would not like all the lentils and chick peas and porridge that you need to live healthily on a vegan diet.
Harry looked very happy but she should be careful. I think she is just bored stiff. I would be in her place.

We have got teeth for eating meat
Yes we have, so why are they there? We also have grinding teeth for plant food so we are meant to be omnivores.

and we are letting off gas just like the cattle and pigs and poultrey.
you speak for yourself Margaret!
although, saying that, we did have bubble and squeak tonight

It is not true that 3.5m in the UK are Vegan, that is 5% of the population, how many Gransnetters know 1 in 20 of their contacts are Vegan and you would know because they would tell you.
That number is probably right for vegetarians of which a small percentage are Vegan that don't consume neat, eggs, milk, cheese, fish, wool, leather or any other animal product.
Vegans are very good at propaganda and fake news believe what you see and know.

Does this mean he will be giving up hunting too?

My favourite Vegan meals - Beans on Toast or Mushroom Stroganoff.

The teeth argument is a misleading / fake one. Most mammals have canine teeth, but some of the ones with biggest teeth - gorillas and hippos are herbivores - those teeth are good for crunching raw plants, nuts etc When was the last time you used your teeth to catch and kill prey? ( which is what lions etc use their big teeth for )

Ha good point RosieLeah I think those episodes will be quietly swept under the carpet now don’t you? Pity the photographs are still floating around on the www though.

I know one vegan (a young relative) she is never very well and looks like a ghost. Having said that even being a vegan her diet is restricted to only a few things so she has to take masses of pills and supplements.

gillybob - your young relative probably needs some help from older, wiser vegans on how to eat properly without using animal products. I'm meeting a friend for lunch at the local vegan cafe tomorrow. The friend became vegan about three years ago because of animal welfare issues. Straight from meat eating to being vegan, with no vegetarian patch in between. The friend looks and is very healthy. The diet is varied and very enjoyable. It does take more thought from those of us who have been meat eaters. I saw a video on line recently about the Tesco so called Red Tractor (ie good animal welfare) scheme. The breeding pigs were kept lying on their sides, by being caged, so piglets could feed but the mother pig was unable to move at all. Pigs are friendly, intelligent animals. I couldn't eat any product from an animal so mistreated and have no difficulty at all in understanding my friends vegan choices.

RosieLeah Harry doesn't hunt because it's no longer legal.

merlotgran he hunts abroad ...big game .Thets worse than hunting for food in my opinion.Killing for sport is abhorrent to me ,I cant understand the mindset of picking up a gun and killing a live animal for pleasure .

Im not sure he does the big game stuff anymore, unlike that hideous relative of Trump ( son in law?) who took a photo of himself with a giraffe he had just killed.

Erm there are photos on the web to prove it merlot probably something he regrets these days but the photos will never go away .

My young relative is 22 Iam her mother brought her up as a vegetarian but she became vegan at around 13-14 . She has had a lot of problems since then and seems to live on about 5-6 quite unhealthy foods .

I posted last year that my granddaughter (12) has become a vegetarian . She’s very fit and healthy and manages perfectly well but I would be very worried if she became vegan .

I eat very little meat myself but couldn’t give up fish, chicken or dairy .

I work with at least 3 vegans; the oldest is 60 and is healthier than anyone I know.

Some people have an unhealthy relationship with food, whatever their food choices are . Maybe your young relative is one of those gillybob. Taking meat and dairy out of your diet doesn't leave you with only 5 or 6 food choices and if she's going for unhealthy foods I'm not surprised you're worried about her.
I could give up fish, chicken and dairy but don't want to. I don't eat farmed fish ever, it's so unhealthy. I only eat free range, organic chicken but I do like dairy. Wicked I know.

People ( and their constitutions) are all wildly different.
Therefore vegans are not all the same.
Some look healthy and some really don’t.
The best diet for any growing child though is not veganism, or vegetarianism but a good all round diet, until they are grown and can make their own minds up.

The best diet for any growing child though is not veganism, or vegetarianism but a good all round diet, until they are grown and can make their own minds up.
I agree absolutely lemongrove
I was quite surprised to hear that my friend's little DGC do eat some meat even though their parents are committed vegetarians. Their mother has done a lot of research about this. I do know other families, however, where the DC were/are brought up as vegetarians (but not vegans).
There have been instances of extreme ill health and even death from children being brought up on a vegan diet. Growing children do need a high number of calories and concentrated protein which is not always possible to provide on a vegan diet.

They can make their own minds up when they are older, past growing, and can choose for themselves.

We should be encouraging a more flexitarian approach - less meat and dairy, even vegan or vegetarian days or weeks, by cutting down on meat and dairy, even if not cutting out completely, would be better for health and the planet. Children can be perfectly healthy on a veggie diet, and a vegan one if carefully managed. It’s a bit of a minefield as we all know that eating highly processed food, cheap fried chicken and so on is also not a healthy diet. So it’s not that an animal protein based diet healthy is automatically better than a plant based one.

Introducing your baby to solid foods from around 6 months is the same for vegetarian and vegan babies as it is for other babies.

Offering your baby a variety of foods will help make sure they get all the nutrients they need to grow and develop.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/vegetarian-vegan-children/

Each to his, or her, own I say. I don't understand why people get so worked up about other people's eating habits. I admire vegans for their commitment - it's not an easy way of life.

I'm a 95% non-meat eater (though I do eat fish) but very occasionally I "lapse" and have some meat. As I say to my husband, it's easy to give up meat if you don't really like it (which he doesn't) but it's more of a struggle if you do!

I'm sure the young people I see coming out of the fried chicken shop, no doubt on a regular basis, are more at risk of health issues than people who follow a vegan diet.

Last April 2018 I changed from vegetarian for 23 years to vegan but with all the research I have done Whole Food Plant Based is best or you could end up eating to much processed vegan food. A good site I have found 'Plant Based Health Professionals UK'. Doctors just do not know enough about nutrition. They only seem to want to make better or cure and not prevent the health problems like heart disease, diebetes, high blood pressure. Hyprocrites said 'Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food'

I note Meghan still loves her various expensive designer leather handbags and shoes.

Reminds me of when muesli became so popular amongst the middle classes. And then the children became under nourished and everyone shrieked in horror.

I think it's a fad, and not a good one. Probably fuelled by clever selling of recent books on the subject. this one in particular