Mounjaro - weight loss injections

There are now 18 believed deaths from these injections There has been quite a big item on the television tonight and it was underlined that people should only be taking these drugs under closely observations of a health care professional

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Lisaangel10

Fleurpepper

I wish you the best. But honestly and truly, don't think this is the way forwards. And the cost to the NHS is humongous.

Same here. My friend has battled with her weight all her adult life. She has taken every pill on the market, she has been hypnotised, she has tried WW, SW (countless times), she has had counselling, tried every diet going, she has had a gastric bypass on the NHS. Nothing has kept the weight off.

The GP refused to allow her the injections as he said if the gastric bypass didn’t work, neither would the jabs. She therefore bought them privately and didn’t lose anything.

Her problems are in her head the GP says and because she doesn’t like any fruit or veg or anything healthy she will never lose weight. Her favourite foods are sandwiches, fish and chips, steak and kidney puddings, fried scampi, cheese, sausages, meat pies etc. she also loves wine which she is not supposed to drink after they gave her the bypass.

You do understand that your 'friend' is very much an outlier and can't really be used to characterise everyone who is overweight?

IOMGran

Lisaangel10

Fleurpepper

I wish you the best. But honestly and truly, don't think this is the way forwards. And the cost to the NHS is humongous.

Same here. My friend has battled with her weight all her adult life. She has taken every pill on the market, she has been hypnotised, she has tried WW, SW (countless times), she has had counselling, tried every diet going, she has had a gastric bypass on the NHS. Nothing has kept the weight off.

The GP refused to allow her the injections as he said if the gastric bypass didn’t work, neither would the jabs. She therefore bought them privately and didn’t lose anything.

Her problems are in her head the GP says and because she doesn’t like any fruit or veg or anything healthy she will never lose weight. Her favourite foods are sandwiches, fish and chips, steak and kidney puddings, fried scampi, cheese, sausages, meat pies etc. she also loves wine which she is not supposed to drink after they gave her the bypass.

You do understand that your 'friend' is very much an outlier and can't really be used to characterise everyone who is overweight?

Wrong. There are thousands like my friend as a trip to SW or WW will confirm. They are overweight because they eat the wrong things and have done so for most of their lives.

Another resurrected old post.

I know someone who has the injections but carries on eating rubbish... some people just need therapy.

Primrose53

IOMGran

Lisaangel10

Fleurpepper

I wish you the best. But honestly and truly, don't think this is the way forwards. And the cost to the NHS is humongous.

Same here. My friend has battled with her weight all her adult life. She has taken every pill on the market, she has been hypnotised, she has tried WW, SW (countless times), she has had counselling, tried every diet going, she has had a gastric bypass on the NHS. Nothing has kept the weight off.

The GP refused to allow her the injections as he said if the gastric bypass didn’t work, neither would the jabs. She therefore bought them privately and didn’t lose anything.

Her problems are in her head the GP says and because she doesn’t like any fruit or veg or anything healthy she will never lose weight. Her favourite foods are sandwiches, fish and chips, steak and kidney puddings, fried scampi, cheese, sausages, meat pies etc. she also loves wine which she is not supposed to drink after they gave her the bypass.

You do understand that your 'friend' is very much an outlier and can't really be used to characterise everyone who is overweight?

Wrong. There are thousands like my friend as a trip to SW or WW will confirm. They are overweight because they eat the wrong things and have done so for most of their lives.

Your friend has had a gastric bypass FFS. That is very extreme. I am on a number of FB groups and most are veterans of SW and WW and have lost weight but have regained it. Your friend is very much an outlier. What percentage of fat people have hat a gastric bypass then? Just out of interest.

Are those using these injections prepared to use them for life or do you believe that when you stop using them the weight will magically stay off
Do you know what you are putting in your body it’s another fad like Turkey teeth and fish lips

Whiff

No and never would . But if you are set on taking it. Have you checked it won't interfere if you are on any medication.
If you have any food allergies have you checked it does contain any? Some tablets and injections contain egg albumen as part of the manufacturing process.
I would keep a daily diary of how you feel and any side effects or skin changes plus bowel habits . As it may show signs of the drug not suiting you .

Just be careful and do you know how long you will be having it ?

Please remember you have to reduce your food intake you can't rely on the drug to magically melt away the stones.

Wish you well but please be careful.

I did it the hard way over 5 years and lost 7st . I realised loosing and keeping off the weight is a marathon not a sprint . I was size 32 and over 19st. Now a size 16. Will never be slim and was obese for decades and even with exercise the skin doesn't magically tighten up. I am baggy and saggy but I don't care . Been trying to lose the last stone for 3 years one day I will do it . I am 66.

Wow!! Well done

Bluebelle I think the drug does quiet the food craving noise and gives the user a chance for their brains to rewire.

I don't think this is a fad like turkey teeth of trout pouts, it's more like gastric bands and sleeves. There are considerable health issues associated with obesity, and we have so many type 2 diabetics now which can and does cause blindness and vascular issues leading to unpleasant amputations and finally death. None of which is cheap to society.

This is why the NHS did a study and concluded it would be cheaper for healthcare to give this kind of treatment to people to retrieve them from the slippery slope of ill health they had gone down. Obviously they have budget and capacity issues but they're currently rolling it out.

I am pragmatic, I have maybe 15 years left if I am lucky. If I spend that having weekly mounjaro subcutaneous injections then I will. I have COPD and I cannot exercise if I put weight on as I have no puff.

I don't really see how it affects anyone if I do this privately and I am sure it will reduce my use of the NHS over the next years.

IOMGran

Primrose53

IOMGran

Lisaangel10

Fleurpepper

I wish you the best. But honestly and truly, don't think this is the way forwards. And the cost to the NHS is humongous.

Same here. My friend has battled with her weight all her adult life. She has taken every pill on the market, she has been hypnotised, she has tried WW, SW (countless times), she has had counselling, tried every diet going, she has had a gastric bypass on the NHS. Nothing has kept the weight off.

The GP refused to allow her the injections as he said if the gastric bypass didn’t work, neither would the jabs. She therefore bought them privately and didn’t lose anything.

Her problems are in her head the GP says and because she doesn’t like any fruit or veg or anything healthy she will never lose weight. Her favourite foods are sandwiches, fish and chips, steak and kidney puddings, fried scampi, cheese, sausages, meat pies etc. she also loves wine which she is not supposed to drink after they gave her the bypass.

You do understand that your 'friend' is very much an outlier and can't really be used to characterise everyone who is overweight?

Wrong. There are thousands like my friend as a trip to SW or WW will confirm. They are overweight because they eat the wrong things and have done so for most of their lives.

Your friend has had a gastric bypass FFS. That is very extreme. I am on a number of FB groups and most are veterans of SW and WW and have lost weight but have regained it. Your friend is very much an outlier. What percentage of fat people have hat a gastric bypass then? Just out of interest.

Loads of people have had baristric surgery, either band, sleeve or bypass and have regained the weight and are now on weight loss jabs.

Ask Dame Judi Murray for one!

Apologies, I mean Dame Jenni Murray. 🤭

There is no magical way to lose weight . You have to put in the effort. Stop eating to much ,stop eating high calorie foods and exercise . And yes I know what I am taking about me 5 years but lost 7st from size 32 to 16. It's a marathon not a sprint to loose weight . And it's hard work and learning to get rid of all your bad habits . Still trying to lose the last stone 3 year of trying but one day I will get there..

What makes me laugh is people are ready to take these jabs not knowing what long term harm they can do . And yet people kicked up such a fuss about having covid jabs and there are some people who still won't have them or the flu jab.

And yet people are willing to put there health at risk to lose weight by having a jab.

I was quite shocked to drive past a local pharmacy and seeing an advert in the window for weight loss injections.

MayBee you can buy them online there are between £105-£249. Depending on which one you have and dosage .

There are a few support groups on Facebook that are quite useful. Check out your supplier carefully as there are some fakes out there.

Primrose53

Apologies, I mean Dame Jenni Murray. 🤭

Loads of people? Quantify please.

Whiff

There is no magical way to lose weight . You have to put in the effort. Stop eating to much ,stop eating high calorie foods and exercise . And yes I know what I am taking about me 5 years but lost 7st from size 32 to 16. It's a marathon not a sprint to loose weight . And it's hard work and learning to get rid of all your bad habits . Still trying to lose the last stone 3 year of trying but one day I will get there..

What makes me laugh is people are ready to take these jabs not knowing what long term harm they can do . And yet people kicked up such a fuss about having covid jabs and there are some people who still won't have them or the flu jab.

And yet people are willing to put there health at risk to lose weight by having a jab.

So why are you still overweight?

IOMGran

So why am I overweight. Thanks very much for the judgement.

I suppose you are a perfect size 12 and never had a weight problem or are you one of those people who want short cuts .

Yes I am a stone over weight but I don't judge other people . But I am still working on losing the weight. I could make excuses as I have health problems at the moment and spent a week spilt better a acute cardiac ward and heart and lung hospitals last month .

But I won't . Because that's not me .

Look and judge yourself before judging others . Are you so perfect . I doubt very much .

Whiff has not only lost an amazing amount of weight but continues to advise and support many others, including myself, who are trying to do the same...

IOMGran

Whiff

There is no magical way to lose weight . You have to put in the effort. Stop eating to much ,stop eating high calorie foods and exercise . And yes I know what I am taking about me 5 years but lost 7st from size 32 to 16. It's a marathon not a sprint to loose weight . And it's hard work and learning to get rid of all your bad habits . Still trying to lose the last stone 3 year of trying but one day I will get there..

What makes me laugh is people are ready to take these jabs not knowing what long term harm they can do . And yet people kicked up such a fuss about having covid jabs and there are some people who still won't have them or the flu jab.

And yet people are willing to put there health at risk to lose weight by having a jab.

So why are you still overweight?

Wow, judgemental much? Instead of praising Whiff for her incredible achievement in losing so much weight in the first place, that's the comment you choose to make?

After many ,many years of various diets,and food taking up my headspace ,I started on the injections last July.
Self funded, I lost 4st by Xmas. Very happy and now on maintenance dose.
I can't believe i can now go from day to day without thinking about food , diets , what's for tea ,snacking, secret binging!!
I only eat small meals, very little snacking ,and don't have the constant ' food noise ' going on in my head.
I am with a pharmacy who do online video consultations .
I'm quite happy to pay for low dose maintenance, for however long it takes to feel this happy

MayBee70

Whiff has not only lost an amazing amount of weight but continues to advise and support many others, including myself, who are trying to do the same...

Yes me too! Whiff is an inspiration...

I was recently diagnosed with diabetes and am on Ozempic for it. (For those who don't know, Ozempic was originally prescribed to control blood sugar in diabetics). I've lost 1.5 stone in four months. I was only barely overweight to begin with, if at all.

However, losing weight anyway might be enough to bring my blood sugar back into normal range. I have other health problems it might help or eliminate too, such as high cholesterol, sleep apnea and circulation problems.

So far, the Ozempic and weight loss have brought my blood sugar down to "pre-diabetic" range.

My hope is to lose another stone, then see what my bloodwork looks like without Ozempic or other medications. I'm hoping the weight loss takes me off the edge and back to normal all around, even if I have to be on the skinny-minnie side to get there.

Once I reach my goal weight, I am going to use psyllium (fiber) to try to get the same "full" feeling I get with Ozempic.

I never realized before how easy it is to stick with a diet plan when your hunger pangs are greatly reduced. I also plan to stay on the diabetic diet, since my understanding is that's how pretty much everyone should eat.

I think you need to have a solid plan in place and also stick with your new and improved habits if you plan to go off Ozempic, Mounjaro etc. Otherwise, you will most likely just gain it all back.

I also agree with those who feel suspicious of the whole "wonder drug" hype. Now they say it also works for alcoholism and so on. But we also hear whispers of some serious problems. I'm aiming for six months total, then I will try to get off it. I'm not sure anyone really knows what the long-range effects might be.

As far as the bad effects we've heard so far (I haven't heard of many but some I have heard of were quite serious) I wish we knew more about the people who had these poor effects. The nature of these drugs is that some of the people on them are very obese and/or in very poor health to begin with. Which would also figure in. But I can't help but think of that old saying, "If something seems to good to be true..."

Whiff

IOMGran

So why am I overweight. Thanks very much for the judgement.

I suppose you are a perfect size 12 and never had a weight problem or are you one of those people who want short cuts .

Yes I am a stone over weight but I don't judge other people . But I am still working on losing the weight. I could make excuses as I have health problems at the moment and spent a week spilt better a acute cardiac ward and heart and lung hospitals last month .

But I won't . Because that's not me .

Look and judge yourself before judging others . Are you so perfect . I doubt very much .

You judge those who use Mounjaro. I have COPD if we want to do health trumps. I am open about my weight problems and I fully intend to return to a size 12 asap. Of course I want a short cut, life is finite and too precious to waste being overweight.

IOMGran if we did health trumps I would win hands down . COPD is common place . What I was born with is it's very rare and have been disabled since birth . But you do what you are doing which is best for you . Just hope you are funding it yourself and not taking resources from people who need specialist drugs but they can't have them because the money is being used up by people who can lose weight on their own .