Wasted school time

In the England team.

In many areas the kids will be on the rundown to the summer holidays with not much formal work being done anyway.

Agreed

MerylStreep

Kali2
It’s becoming glaringly obvious that you don’t know English schoolchildren as much as you like to think you do.

Ah Meryl- what a daft comment if ever there was one.

Ellianne

So now all the excitement is over, here's the answer to Kali's question What would be wrong about learning about the other team's country? ie Denmark's.
In Key Stage 2 History this is one of the components: Viking raids and invasion, Danegeld. Plenty of material already here to learn about Denmark in the curriculum.

Oh yes, teach them about the Danes 13C ago- would be fine as long as it links to todays realities in Danemark. The way they respect and fund a great education system for all, with no private schools to cream the top, for instance.

Couldn’t agree more GEEKESSE.

Danemark ???

I haven’t read all the comments yet but this must be the most miserable post I’ve seen on gransnet. Seriously, complaining about children singing, whatever next?

The trouble with your suggestion Kali is that at 8 years old most children won't understand or be I interested the workings of the education system in a different country. That type of topic is normally at teacher training level.
If you want to go Danish at KS2 try a day when they make smørrebrød and produc

Kali2 a lot of our private schools don’t cream the top. If mummy and daddy didn’t pay half those kids would flounder.

........ produce a little brochure about the beauty of the country. The tangible stuff.

As said, not a waste of a day- just depends how it is done. It could be done very well, and be a really useful tool. What I saw on TV on the news, did seem to teach nationalism per se.

We call it Denmark. They call it Danemark Chewbacca.

How do you know the video was made during school hours? It could of been made after school or at the weekend.

Nanof3, you have to ‘go with the flow’ and let children have fun as well as learn. This is once in 4 years - and it made a lot of people, including myself, smile.

trisher

Heaven forbid that children should have any fun, singing and football should be banned.
Now, what I want is Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the mind of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. -Mr Gradgrind.

I know this quote from somewhere is it"Hard Times" by Dickens? I did it for a level and it was b.....y hard times. Facts Mr Bounderby facts.
The children did seem to be enjoying themselves and I think your quote is tongue in cheek, and if soI agree with you.
As an ex-teacher, no child learned anything if they were unhappy.

We call it Denmark. They call it Danemark Chewbacca

Ah thanks 25Avalon I hadn't realised that kali2 was Danish.

Which makes me even more perplexed as to why English children, singing a song at school, should make her so angry. And what is wrong, per se with children being proud of the achievements in a field of sport? Would the same disgust and outrage have been generated from cricket or tennis or is it just football that the OP has a problem with? And would it have been acceptable if the children had been filmed singing a song for a visiting dignatory or member of the royal family? Or maybe children shouldn't be singing at all. I'm interested in knowing where the OPs problem actually lies.

Kali2

Ellianne

So now all the excitement is over, here's the answer to Kali's question What would be wrong about learning about the other team's country? ie Denmark's.
In Key Stage 2 History this is one of the components: Viking raids and invasion, Danegeld. Plenty of material already here to learn about Denmark in the curriculum.

Oh yes, teach them about the Danes 13C ago- would be fine as long as it links to todays realities in Danemark. The way they respect and fund a great education system for all, with no private schools to cream the top, for instance.

Not strictly true. There are private schools in Denmark.

Yammy you're right it's a quote from Dickens. Unfortunately it seems to be the way that education is currently heading. Forget the arts or fun there's no time for them!

I don't understand the Sweet Caroline sporting connection either but apparently it started in the USA.

Perhaps we should ban all group events at school? God forbid the children should actually enjoy themselves Personally l think it was a bit of light relief for them to join together after a stressful time for all

This is how schoolchildren should be. Sit up straight! Hands behind your back! No slouching! No talking! That'll learn them.

geekesse

They learnt words. They learnt a tune. They learnt to all sing the same thing together at the same time. They learnt to follow the teacher conducting. They learnt to stand together in a group and work together as a team to learn and perform the song. Some of them learnt to act enthusiasm for something they don’t much care about (though I think you’ll find there are fewer of those than you think). They learnt about how a TV outside broadcast works, and how to deliver a performance for broadcast. Oh, and they had fun. How is any of that a waste of time?

Very well said geekesse.

trisher

Yammy you're right it's a quote from Dickens. Unfortunately it seems to be the way that education is currently heading. Forget the arts or fun there's no time for them!

I don't understand the Sweet Caroline sporting connection either but apparently it started in the USA.

I guessed it was from Dickens.I agree with you . When I first taught many years ago the children had 5 P.E lessons a week, Over the years that was cut to three because they were taking too long to get their clothes on and off!
When I left it was 2 lessons a week plus one art and a music session. ' Arts and music had been integral to the Topic themed way we taught. I dread to think what it is now.
People called Caroline must cringe every time they hear it. It seems one of the Rugby league teams sings it as well

I feel sorry that some people feel so bitter about children having fun or about football making people feel elated and proud. It’s been a sad and anxious time for everyone and a little joy, from whatever source, is surely a thing to be welcomed. If some think that they might be bored by others’ enjoyment, then keep them off and do something else. There are plenty of educational sites for core subjects that might be preferable to having fun. Good luck with that AND COME ON ENGLAND !!!

I loved to sing at school, it made you so happy, better than maths anyday. We all need a bit of joy don't we