Exactly Smileless - some adult children recognise the significance of an existing relationship between their children and grandparents. Pick up and collections can be civil if not warm and loving. A bit like the way in which some separated parents are able to put the needs of the children first, rather than involve them in a war.
Old sayings with a theme 2 ( continuing *nanna8*'s thread)
Last weekend, in Rutland, the first statue in Britain of the late Elizabeth II was unveiled.