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I really think I would have made a good grandfather.

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DannyD Sat 06-Aug-22 18:38:19

I've been married to my high school sweetheart for 47+ years now. My wife and I are both in our mid 60s, and have three children, all of whom are married with our two sons, both in their mid 40s having children of their own.

My wife has suffered with both mental and physical issues for years, having been diagnosed with Lupus, Fibro, RA, Bipolarism, Depression, and most recently, Major Cognitive Disorder (Dementia).

Facebook! Is it a godsend or a God Damn curse? While we are neither one on Facebook anymore, we were one time. Our sons live off, one 120 miles away and the other in Korea, so the only way to keep current with them was texting or Facebook. I don't know when or how it all started, but one remark made then a counter and it just seemed to escalate. No need to get into a she said/she said here.

I've tried to play peacemaker, and have had some success. I've tried my best to explain to my sons and daughter their mother's state of mind and the fact that she has said some things better left unsaid. I guess whatever she said, and for the life of me I can't remember, is simply unforgiveable for one of my sons and my daughter, who is much younger, in her mid 20s.

Our son who lives in Korea with his wife and two daughters understands what is going on and messages us regularly, and his wife sends pictures to keep us up to date as we watch our granddaughters grow up.

Our son, who has three sons, and his wife, for whatever reason, refuses to text, message, call, or visit. Our last visit with them, us going to their house, was Christmas of 2021, and I thought it was a wonderful visit. Of course my wife could not interact as she wanted to due to her conditions, but when we left their house we were both so pleased that the visit had gone well. Since then I've tried calling, texting, and emailing both my son and daughter-in-law to see how everyone was doing, but have only been met with sporadic texts. I did manage to get my son to call me one morning. He had me on speaker and was driving two of his boys to school. After passing pleasantries, I told him I was curious why neither he nor his wife would contact us. I said that I thought our Christmas visit went well, and thought the past was behind us. He told me it was not me, that he didn't like the way "mom was." I said well I guess I'm just collateral damage, huh? His response "It is what it is".

I won't get into issues involving my wife and daughter.

Anyway, Like the title says, I always thought I would have made a good grandfather.

VioletSky Mon 08-Aug-22 19:22:39

Norah

VioletSky He is the one asking for support here and I support him seeing his children and grandchildren

I have not read anything that indicated he was asking support, rather just making *some statements with many omitted details (as is his pejorative)

I support OP seeing his children and grandchildren, pretty sure that's allowed

Norah Mon 08-Aug-22 20:35:54

VioletSky I support OP seeing his children and grandchildren, pretty sure that's allowed

Indeed, I'm sure that is allowed.

However, I have not read anything indicating he was asking support, rather just making some statements with many omitted details.

I supported as well, I find it admirable to put his wife first.

VioletSky Mon 08-Aug-22 20:38:45

Norah

VioletSky I support OP seeing his children and grandchildren, pretty sure that's allowed

Indeed, I'm sure that is allowed.

However, I have not read anything indicating he was asking support, rather just making some statements with many omitted details.

I supported as well, I find it admirable to put his wife first.

OK, can you please just tell me what it is that you want from me?

I am afraid us giving the same advice is probably off the table but other than that?

Chewbacca Mon 08-Aug-22 20:38:55

Did anyone say it wasn't? It's been said many times before, everyone has their own opinion and they're allowed,within guidelines.

Norah Mon 08-Aug-22 20:46:47

I simply gave differing opinions to how I read the post. As Chewbacca noted, opinions are allowed. As is reading of the OP content, truly parsing the written words.

Chewbacca Mon 08-Aug-22 20:50:54

I find it admirable to put his wife first.

As do I. It's just a pity he's been put in the position of having to choose between his son and family and his wife.

VioletSky Mon 08-Aug-22 20:54:17

Norah

I simply gave differing opinions to how I read the post. As Chewbacca noted, opinions are allowed. As is reading of the OP content, truly parsing the written words.

OK, to me OP sounded sad and like he needed support so I've given it and I hope things improve for him

Norah Mon 08-Aug-22 21:00:28

Oh dear, I used pejorative instead of prerogative. Changes the meaning of my answer, sorry.

VioletSky Mon 08-Aug-22 21:03:29

No worries

Smileless2012 Mon 08-Aug-22 21:03:52

Yes it is a pity if he feels he has to choose between his wife and his AC Chewbacca. If he chooses to put his wife first, he has my admiration too Norah.

VioletSky Mon 08-Aug-22 21:11:16

DannyD has my admiration either way as it's such a sad situation and he must do what feels right for him.

I just hope you know DannyD it is a choice where you can love everyone and there wouldn't be anything wrong with that