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Nail in the Coffin

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fishing4life1 Wed 12-Apr-23 17:38:05

Posted on here awhile ago and been following along occasionally. We finally heard from our son, saying we "nailed the coffin" shut. I've been replaying these years through in my mind since and don't have another source to talk about them. I'm not looking for advice, just want to feel like I have a voice somewhere. We don't have family so my wife and I are really all each other have now.

It finally ended Last week when DiL emailed me after "not hearing from us" for awhile and saying they had recent family pictures taken and thought we might want to see them. (Personally they were good pictures and ES and GC look great). However, this caused my wife to become depressed (there were some pictures of just my son and DiL - him kissing her cheek, holding her and laughing, etc...Knowing our dislike for DiL those should have been withheld). My wife couldn't sleep that night and so the next day we talked about it. I would have responded with something along the lines of nice pictures, etc... short and quick, but my wife insisted, so instead we emailed back telling her not to contact us but ES could.

ES then emailed that DiL has said "to forget ones ancestors is to be a tree without roots" and "for the sake of GC, she tried to maintain some connection". But ES said he has forbidden her to contact us again and the "coffin was nailed shut" for him. (We replied with our own list of issues DiL caused but he blocked us).

I am however secretly having a hard time as I wonder what it would be like to talk to the GC I saw in the pictures. Best to just forget it but I needed to process the end and finally live without thinking about ES possibly realizing that this is just how his mother is and coming back home. Anyone else had to choose between spouse and children/Inlaws?

MercuryQueen Thu 13-Apr-23 19:02:27

Well. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. confused Your DIL, despite your declared hatred of you, made the effort to bring the children to visit, which you then refused. She sent pics, but you’re angry that she was in them. How dare she not pretend not to exist in her own family photos!

Seriously? You and your wife are holding this poor woman responsible for your son’s decisions and your loss of control over his life. None of the reasons you gave for your hatred are even about her! They’re all based on what you and your wife had decreed what your son’s future would be.

You burned the last remaining bridge. Hopefully your pride comforts you in the years to come, because it seems as though it’s all you’re going to be left with, due to your own choices and behaviour. Yes, your wife has equal responsibility, but you chose to follow her lead.

Norah Thu 13-Apr-23 19:31:53

MercuryQueen

Well. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. confused Your DIL, despite your declared hatred of you, made the effort to bring the children to visit, which you then refused. She sent pics, but you’re angry that she was in them. How dare she not pretend not to exist in her own family photos!

Seriously? You and your wife are holding this poor woman responsible for your son’s decisions and your loss of control over his life. None of the reasons you gave for your hatred are even about her! They’re all based on what you and your wife had decreed what your son’s future would be.

You burned the last remaining bridge. Hopefully your pride comforts you in the years to come, because it seems as though it’s all you’re going to be left with, due to your own choices and behaviour. Yes, your wife has equal responsibility, but you chose to follow her lead.

Sums it up so well.

It's an odd person that bites the outstretched olive branch, my opinion. I suspect, OP, by your own actions you're well and truly cut-off from you son, GC and dreaded, albeit sweet and kind DIL.

Sago Thu 13-Apr-23 19:37:09

If it’s all true and I’m not sure then poor son and DIL.

Grams2five Tue 18-Apr-23 08:11:03

BlueBelle

I m really sorry, as your support for your wife shines through but she is the one causing all this trouble and that’s going to be really hard for you to read
You saw the photos recognised that they looked happy and that was enough for you, you were prepared to text back your thanks with a simple message, but your wife overrode that and had to put the boot in and you did as she bade. She is the one causing all this trouble and unfortunately I think your son and daughter in law have made the right decision

Your wife obviously needs professional help and I m sure you do too to help you know how to stand up to her without feeling cruel
Good luck sometimes tough love is the best in the long run

Truly excellent advice bluebelle

Hetty58 Tue 18-Apr-23 08:21:03

It's just so terribly sad. We may not be best buddies with our kids' partners - but, still, we really appreciate that somebody loves and cares for them, puts up with them and makes them happy. That's how I feel.

I accept family members, faults and all (being far from perfect myself) and really value the time spent with them - and my precious grandchildren.

How awful to lose all that!

Mamasperspective Tue 19-Sept-23 14:14:58

So DIL has been really kind and tried to open some narrative by sending you family pics to make you feel included (an olive branch if you like) and you are annoyed because she is in some of the pics and your son looks happy? I'm sorry but you sound unreasonable in this scenario.

Your son is never going to choose his parents over his own wife and children - it just won't happen. He's not a child anymore, he's a grown adult. They have their own lives now that do not necessarily include yourself or your wife.

They have their own home to run, their own lives to lead and their own children to raise. All decisions to do with anything in their lives is entirely their decision (particularly when it comes to their children) and that should be respected, not challenged. When he chose his partner and chose to have a family with her then they became his first priority and rightly so. It sounds like he is advocating for his wife and family. Congratulations you have clearly raised a good man.

I'm curious to know the reasons behind this distancing from their family ...

Harris27 Tue 19-Sept-23 14:26:05

Your life your choice but sometimes we just need to accept our lives and if this is what you’ve chosen good luck.

HelterSkelter1 Tue 19-Sept-23 15:00:16

I wonder what has happened 6 months on. Did he take all the good advice. Such a sad story.
Situations like this do make you look closely and think about your own behaviour over your life.

Gransnet does make you reflect on life.

DiamondLily Tue 19-Sept-23 15:56:42

What a sad story - I remember the "back story" now.

As parents, we really need to accept the partners our ACs have chosen. Unless there's some sort of abuse, or they really are causing aggravation, then, whatever we might think at times, we have to suck it up.

I'm lucky - I get on with both of my in-laws, but it has taken some adjustments and biting of tongues at times!😷

If they are happy, and the children are happy, then that's all it needs to be.

It's sad that your wife can't see that. But, you've made your choices and I wish you well. 💐

Allsorts Tue 19-Sept-23 18:25:10

I can’t believe this, surely no one can be so unfeeling.

Shel69 Mon 09-Oct-23 12:14:13

It's a wind up as the name implies,
Fishing?

Hithere Mon 09-Oct-23 12:44:42

Backstory

www.gransnet.com/forums/estrangement/1316759-Estrangement-sucks