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Gifts to GC when estranged

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Ladysuisei Sat 03-Feb-24 16:29:54

Although I’m not ( quite) estranged from my son yet I’m already banned from having a relationship with my grandson ( only one ) who is due in March . My son has metered out so much cruelty to me over the last few months - but the most hurtful thing he’s told me regarding my new grandson is : Do not send any gifts . He will not be receiving anything from you .

This whole situation has escalated from a miscommunication which occurred in August last year , not discussed then allowed to fester . Much more has happened since sadsadthen of course . It’s devastating.

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 16:39:09

BlueBelle

Glad that post of GG65 was removed quickly
Very nasty post

Is it not the truth?

Is it only Violet Sky’s past that is permitted to be brought up on here?

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 16:41:20

eddiecat78

I neither know or care what Smiles husband has or hasn't done. I do know that the reason she has been around for years is because so many estranged grandparents have needed her support - for years. And she has tirelessly given it.
Your personal attacks are totally out of order and have no place here

And that’s fine. You don’t need to care.

But many people do care. Many people left the site because of what happened. It wasn’t okay.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 16:42:39

Oh dear GG65 you must be getting desperate. It's no secret that my husband is a member of GN and has been for several years, although seldom posts. GNHQ have always been aware of this.

Yes, I foolishly posted under another name to try and put an end to the harassment I was receiving at the time from one poster in particular, and was rightly banned for doing so.

I contacted GNHQ providing a full explanation which included my particularly unpleasant history with this particular poster. They carried out a full investigation, accepted my explanation and were good enough to re instate me.

I did not, and never have bullied this poster or anyone else on GN, and have never encouraged anyone to bully someone on my behalf.

I'd prefer GG65's post to stand Bridie. I have never denied what I did and believe that GG65's post does her far more disservice to her than it does to me.

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 16:43:41

VioletSky

Please don't get the thread taken down

I apologise.

I am well aware of the tactics of trying to get the thread deleted and I don’t want to contribute to that happening.

But, it’s just galling. It needed to be said.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 16:44:27

I see it has already been deleted.

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 16:55:38

Smileless2012

Oh dear GG65 you must be getting desperate. It's no secret that my husband is a member of GN and has been for several years, although seldom posts. GNHQ have always been aware of this.

Yes, I foolishly posted under another name to try and put an end to the harassment I was receiving at the time from one poster in particular, and was rightly banned for doing so.

I contacted GNHQ providing a full explanation which included my particularly unpleasant history with this particular poster. They carried out a full investigation, accepted my explanation and were good enough to re instate me.

I did not, and never have bullied this poster or anyone else on GN, and have never encouraged anyone to bully someone on my behalf.

I'd prefer GG65's post to stand Bridie. I have never denied what I did and believe that GG65's post does her far more disservice to her than it does to me.

It's no secret that my husband is a member of GN and has been for several years, although seldom posts. GNHQ have always been aware of this.

But it was a secret. Because no one knew. It was only made public when you were banned from Gransnet and your husband posted to let everyone know that you were banned.

And the username your husband was posting under was masquerading as a female and being particularly nasty and vile towards female posters. The same posters that you disagreed with (on estrangement threads).

Yes, I foolishly posted under another name to try and put an end to the harassment I was receiving at the time from one poster in particular

Actually, you were harassing one poster in particular under that username. So much so, that they actually complained about you to GNs. No one was harrassing you. There were many screen shots doing the rounds showing exactly what was going on.

believe that GG65's post does her far more disservice to her than it does to me.

Always seems to be that way, eh?

BlueBelle Sat 10-Feb-24 17:03:08

Well it certainly wasn’t Smileless that I was referring to but another person on here who bullied people badly and was removed but allowed back when she sited medical reasons

Smileless has always come across as very helpful and went through a horrible times

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:05:35

BlueBelle

Well it certainly wasn’t Smileless that I was referring to but another person on here who bullied people badly and was removed but allowed back when she sited medical reasons

Smileless has always come across as very helpful and went through a horrible times

So, can I just check with you.

Bringing up what has happened in the past with Violet Sky is fine.

Bringing up what has happened in the past with Smileless is nasty?

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:06:48

Of course no one apart from GNHQ knew, none of us post using our real names do we and no, he was not masquerading as a female (thanks for giving us both a laugh though) and has never been vile, particularly or otherwise, towards females online or in real life.

As I said, you must be desperate because although your posts do you far more disservice than they do me, you keep on posting them.

VioletSky Sat 10-Feb-24 17:08:21

I didn't bully anyone, I engaged in arguments with people who are cleverer than me in terms of winding you up and I was unknowingly unwell at that time

I just don't rise to that sort of thing anymore and refuse to engage in arguments so the problem is resolved completely

VioletSky Sat 10-Feb-24 17:10:31

Please can we draw a line under this now

What matters here is that we protect future generations being hurt by past family feuds

Something very important to many of us

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:17:18

Smileless2012

Of course no one apart from GNHQ knew, none of us post using our real names do we and no, he was not masquerading as a female (thanks for giving us both a laugh though) and has never been vile, particularly or otherwise, towards females online or in real life.

As I said, you must be desperate because although your posts do you far more disservice than they do me, you keep on posting them.

As I said, you must be desperate because although your posts do you far more disservice than they do me, you keep on posting them

I’m not desperate, just disgusted. I also couldn’t care less what you and your friends on Gransnet think of me.

has never been vile, particularly or otherwise, towards females online or in real life.

Actually, on the thread Violet Sky started when she returned to the site, your husband must have had around 30 plus posts deleted for their content and aggression towards Violet Sky.

Of course, no one at the time knew it was your husband, but it stuck with me because I (and other posters) had never seen anything like it in our lives. I had never and have never seen that kind of vitriol from any poster on this site.

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:17:58

VioletSky

I didn't bully anyone, I engaged in arguments with people who are cleverer than me in terms of winding you up and I was unknowingly unwell at that time

I just don't rise to that sort of thing anymore and refuse to engage in arguments so the problem is resolved completely

The word you are looking for isnt “cleverer”, it’s “more manipulative”.

GG65 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:19:35

VioletSky

Please can we draw a line under this now

What matters here is that we protect future generations being hurt by past family feuds

Something very important to many of us

Yes, and I again apologise.

I’ve said what I needed to say.

I’m done now.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:23:58

30 plus postsgrin he's never made that many posts in a short period of time in his life!!!

It's quite obvious that you don't care what people think of you. Have you ever thought of becoming a writer? I'd say fiction would be right up your street.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:24:59

I'm done now well that's something I suppose.

JosieGc Sat 10-Feb-24 17:34:05

Agreed. VS you seem to be an incredibly intelligent person, your views are thoughtful and properly expressed. It is so clear to me that you have the very best of intentions for those navigating estrangement and I am always interested by your comments and viewpoints and experiences.

JosieGc Sat 10-Feb-24 17:35:58

That was in response to GG65 comment at 17.17

VioletSky Sat 10-Feb-24 17:48:53

Thank you for saying that Josie it means a lot to me

JosieGc Sat 10-Feb-24 17:54:54

VS 💐

Granniesunite Sat 10-Feb-24 17:57:34

I hope you all know which posters I was referring to when when I said it’s becoming childish now.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 18:00:42

Yes of course we do Granniesunite smile.

DiamondLily Sat 10-Feb-24 18:31:47

From working in Child Protection, it was indisputable that statiscally most children were harmed by parents/step-parents.

Of course, there are exceptions.

From my own experience of my mother (a nightmare), all I can say is that she became a wonderful granny to my kids, and great granny to my grandchildren.

I don’t know why or how - but she was. It’s what it was. I couldn’t have picked better. 👍

Perhaps some people find it easier to be GPs than parents - God knows.😗

Otter99 Sat 10-Feb-24 18:46:56

For what it's worth, I have been following this thread with interest and I for one have been interested in all the different view points expressed from all sides of the table. My own opinion is that my estranged mother tried to send birthday cards to my very young children who are not of reading age. Think along the lines of "granny loves you and misses you and its such a shame I'm not allowed to be a part of your life". I felt it was massively inappropriate considering one of them has never met her and the other would not remember. But a very self serving act to write that in a child's birthday card. Obviously they cannot read and were nor given said card. But it has given me anxiety should she try again.

VioletSky Sat 10-Feb-24 18:49:13

We used to get cards like that too, I might have passed them on if it was a simple happy birthday