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Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

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Smileless2012 Thu 07-May-26 08:38:58

For those of us who've been living with estrangement for sometime and in many cases for years, we know how important this thread is.

The friendships we have made are our constant companions as we continue our journeys through our lives without the ones we have lost due to estrangement.

We have learned from one another that our estrangements don't define us and our desire to keep this thread going is as much for those who may not have posted before and maybe at the beginning of their estrangement, as it is for those of us who've been posting for sometime.

Our dear friend Babs posted the following several months ago and because it encapsulates so perfectly what we strive to achieve, I wrote it down for the OP of the next thread.

"We give advice in a calm and collected manner because we are removed from this storm, but when you are in it you cling to anything you think will get through to your child".

Thank you Babs for your wise and insightful words.

Smileless2012 Mon 19-Oct-26 08:39:33

Morning everyone, hope you all had a good weekend.

Oh yes Whiff, I forgot about the pic of Ziggy so will get Mr. S. to put one on later.

Had a lovely time with my dearest friend. Apart from Monday afternoon when he was bowling, he stayed in to dog sit the 3 dogs so we could go out without worrying about the time smile.

I bought some new Christmas decs too Whiff. Not sure if we'll be having a tree due to Ziggy being into everything so we bought an over the table frame which we can decorate and light up just in case there's no tree.

We have a smaller one which we can put up on a table which if we do, we'll have to forgo our beautiful glass baubles just in case.

A mobility scooter is a great idea Whiff and I can just picture you getting out and about. There are some great designs; are you going to go for anything fancy? There are some great colours available and I was thinking that 'race red' would really suit you grin.

Sounds as if you've got your winter veg sorted Sparkly. It must be satisfying eating your own produce and you and Whiff do very well growing your own.

It's miserable here this morning but I need to take some jeans that I bought last week back to the shop, because I got the wrong length and they're too short!!! Bought some lovely court shoes with a nice heel in M&S, wore them for the first time Saturday evening and my feet kept slipping out of them so while I'm out, I'll need to buy some heel grips.

So lovely to have this thread to come onto and catch up as there was a lot of unpleasantness elsewhere on the estrangement forum over the weekend sad.

Have a good day everyone x

Yoginimeisje Tue 20-Oct-26 08:56:46

Thanks for that info Sparkly hope I get some apples next year then. Still like to get a Crabapple tree though. Good luck with your winter produce.

Yoginimeisje Tue 20-Oct-26 09:02:17

Yes, rotten day today Smiles so need to get out before it rains. I just stay on this estrangement page for that reason S.

Whiff good luck with choosing your Mobility scooter.

Awful what's happening in France, all those poor shop owners having their shops looted and trashed!

SparklyGrandma Tue 20-Oct-26 18:07:24

Thank you Yogin.

A long time DF has been cut off by her DD. She asked me what to do because she’s crying, leaving messages and feeling hurt.

I suggested she try distraction, and that if her daughter gets cross because of DM constantly messaging her, it might last longer.

I said it softly and sensitively, she heard but not completely.

The DDs father passed suddenly 13 weeks ago, everyone, she says is in a high emotional state.

Anyway, bought a new Veronica dress in the Seasalt sale. They are so flattering to a rounded frame.

SparklyGrandma Tue 20-Oct-26 18:13:24

Yes please Whiff the recipe for apple cake, thank you.

If I had excess apples I would have juiced them. I saw a fruit press for £24 on one of the countryside websites I follow, maybe Wildlife Trust.

A mobility scooter sounds like a great idea Whiff..

Beescrete Tue 20-Oct-26 20:17:17

Whiff

Beescrete I am happy with my decision 3 years ago and never want to see or speak to my son ever again . He destroyed any trust I had in him. The love I feel is for the son I had for 32 years. Not the 39 year old man he is now. We are strangers. I am not the mom he knew . I last saw my eldest grandson and his brother when they where 4&2. Now 10,8 & their brother 6. I don't know his name only his due date in 2020. I wouldn't recognise the 2 I know. But we live in differnt parts of the city I live north west of it and they south east. So would never cross paths.

I am so sorry for the pain you felt. I commend you for recognizing when it was time to let go and accept. That is the hardest thing to do for anyone involved in estrangement. I believe making that decision eventually leads to peace.

Whiff Wed 21-Oct-26 16:27:43

SparklyGrandma
This is an old recipe

Line a 2lb loaf tin. Oven temp 170° fan oven

My way of making it is to put all the ingredients into a bowl without the apples and mix with electric mixer.
8oz SF flour
4oz soft brown sugar
4oz spread or butter but I use olive spread .
2 medium eggs
1 tablespoon of honey or golden syrup
I don't measure just give a good squeeze of the bottle.

Large or 2 medium apples Bramley is the best cut into pieces . But your apples will work just as well.

Once cake mixed stir in apples . I sometimes use more apples if I don't think it looks enough.

Bake 45 mins . Test with skewer if still raw in the middle but brown . Cover with some foil give another 10mins.
Put on cooling rack .Leave in the tin for 10mins before taking out. Just peel down sides of the paper its to soft to lift and take it off the bottom until cold .

Instead of apples you can use 250g of blueberries.

It keeps well and freezes . Can be made using gluten free flour . Tested both ways no one could tell which was which. Tested on people who aren't gluten free.

Smileless2012 Wed 21-Oct-26 17:02:37

As you know Whiff, we are geographically much closer to our ES since moving here just over 2 years ago and it was only a few months ago that our paths did cross in a supermarket.

What would we do and/or say if that were to happen has been something we've all pondered from time to time and for me, doing and saying nothing was how I always envisaged it would be, and it was.

It is I would think more than likely that we could walk past our GS's in the small market town where our flat is but we wouldn't know them if we did and it's extremely unlikely they'd know us.

Beautiful flower Sparkly smile.

Yoginimeisje Fri 23-Oct-26 10:47:06

Lovely rose Sparkly same colour as my 6 bridesmaids dresses when I married a second time. Hope your friend found some comfort in your words, but when you're in the first throes of estrangement it's difficult to listen. Enjoy wearing your new dress. Talking of apples, I went out with a friend for lunch yesterday, had a 3-course meal for £10, dessert was apple crumble & custard, delicous!

Yoginimeisje Fri 23-Oct-26 11:36:01

....Had to dash, phone call from my DD.

Well, what a rotten day today, my DD cancelled coming to dinner tonight due to the high winds, will come tomorrow.

I want to take Joey for walkies but it's tipping down at the moment and I'm a bit afraid of walking in the park, being full of big trees, with these high winds.

Take care everyone xx

agnurse Fri 23-Oct-26 19:30:39

Yogin

I just had the thought that given the winds, it's probably not a good idea to take Joey for walkies because he might end up going for flyies and I rather suspect nobody wants that grin