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Tinytink1919 Mon 09-Sept-19 15:03:42

I am going to try to make this short but desperately need advice. My MIL has always been overbearing and controling with her son, my husband. First time she met me she told me she will always be number #1 in his life. I have always tried to be nice, courteous and respectful, wanted her to accept me since me and my own mother don't have a relationship. Fast forward to now we have a beautiful son. Her first grandchild. She is over the moon of course! I'm so happy she loves him so much. While I was pregnant she said hurtful things to me and made me feel worthless. Now the baby is here and of course she got a bit nicer, until yesterday...this is my question.....she was holding my son and said he looks just like Micheal ( my husband) but looks like you when he does his resting bitch face...then goes grrrr and makes an ugly face. I was speechless didnt know how to take it. I walked in the other room and cried not sure if I was hurt or terribly mad. My question is am I being overly sensitive, or was this a jab at me? How do I put on a happy face when I see her? Was that rude? Why would she even say that? Just want some advice hopefully you nice woman can give me some insight, thankyou.

Want2Help Tue 10-Sept-19 12:04:16

I agree with Smileless2012 and plus, you sound like a lovely gentle lady and so no doubt she knows she'll get away with it. Tough as it may seem, try to prepare yourself for when she says her next bitc**y comment and then slowly and calmly repeat (in 'question form') what she just said

eg.... "when he does his bitch resting face????" and just calmly hold her gaze!!

You're not insulting her, you're not arguing with her BUT you are reflecting her nasty comment right back at her... I've used this method to good effect, it usually shocks people and if you can hold your nerve, makes them squirm. Afterwards if just get on with what you want to do and leave her to think. Either way, I really hope you can find the courage to stand up to this nasty woman x ?

Jillybird Tue 10-Sept-19 12:13:37

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Hetty58 Tue 10-Sept-19 12:18:04

My own mother made similar remarks. I had very good reason to suggest turning it into a joke as she's unlikely to change. If she craves drama and is desperate for a reaction and/or escalation to a quarrel then you simply play right into her hands when you try to stand up to her.

She will absolutely hate being repeatedly told how funny she is. She will despair when she discovers how easily you brush off her nasty comments.

Believe me, that's the way to deal with her. Don't give her any ammunition, just be extra friendly and polite.

Only your husband should chastise her, if necessary, with something like 'How dare you talk about my wife like that!' Put him in charge of dealing with her but never, ever, show hostility or hurt feelings as that's just what she wants.

FC61 Tue 10-Sept-19 12:21:11

I choose not to ignore these things because in my experience they just carry on or get worse. I would text email write to her and say I’m not ok with the resting bitch comment or other nasty remarks and if her DS and DGS mean anything to her she should be more careful in the future because you won’t tolerate it. Remind her it’s not in her interests to destroy her relationship with you regardless of how jealous or insecure she is. Maybe it’s good to Say You want to have a good relationship with her and that is why this must be dealt with in the open before resentment sets in ! Comments don’t bother me but I still don’t allow people to insult me. Usually they are the type nobody has stood up to and I don’t mind being the one who does.

FC61 Tue 10-Sept-19 12:24:06

My other tactic with a difficult relative was in the moment nasty comment was made I collected belongings and walked out. After 2/3 times it stopped because she knew what she was doing!

Diane227 Tue 10-Sept-19 12:38:24

I would have looked at the baby and said "ooh grandmas a nasty woman isnt she . My face is a lot less ugly than hers "
Then laughed.
The baby is way too young to understand if you keep your tone quiet but granny will get the message.

absthame Tue 10-Sept-19 12:42:21

As a husband I find your MiL's behavior disgusting. So my view maybe seen to be harsh.

It is time to sit your husband down and make it clear that firstly he has to get some spine and slap his mother into her place. Secondly I don't think that the MiL should be any longer welcome in your home until she apologises for her past behaviour and undertakes to behave properly in the future.

If your husband cannot support you in this you and your child would be better without him.

ClareAB Tue 10-Sept-19 12:55:41

Next time she says something unpleasant, look her in the eye and calmly ask her 'why would you say that?'
99 times out of a 100 this makes people squirm...

Nonnie Tue 10-Sept-19 13:03:14

Most of you seem to have experience of awful behaviour, I count myself very lucky not to know anyone like this or anyone who would retaliate as so many have. I would always put kindness first, have you heard the expression "kill them with kindness" it often works far better than retaliation.

cwasin Tue 10-Sept-19 13:29:56

TinyTink, you lovely lady, there’s lots of good advice here. At the risk of simply adding more I would combine three.
1. Several people have advised you to ask her to repeat the comment. Excellent advice, followed by the advice of agnurse on page 1.
2. If she is hard faced enough to repeat what she said, you can tell her to apologise. Difficult I know, so
3. Again lots of people’s advice: practice in the mirror.
Finally, the real power struggle winner, take your baby and say, ‘You can go now’. Those 4 little words show that you are calling the shots. Your house, your baby. Open the front door and stand there. That one is really hard to do but powerfully effective.
Be prepared, she will complain to your husband. Have the conversation with him so he’s ready when she does.
He needs to be able to tell her that you love to have her at your house but you won’t be insulted in your own home. You’re looking forward to her next visit. You want to have a good relationship with her and so on.

fluff Tue 10-Sept-19 13:37:49

You are not being over sensitive, she is obviously a cow , I’d comment back with “ooh that’s funny he always reminds me of you when he’s straining to fill his nappy!” If she doesn’t appreciate the joke , you can tell her that you didn’t either, joking apart, nip this in the bud or it will only get worse, either ending in a massive row or the end of your marriage.

aonk Tue 10-Sept-19 13:45:39

I had a similar mil to yours and I endured hurtful comments for many years. My husband told me to ignore her saying that she “ didn’t mean it.”
I suspect she thought she could get away with it as she was the only mother. My mother died when I was very young. I told her once that if my mother was still alive I would only visit her. To be fair we had a much better relationship when she was v elderly. She thanked me for being such a good friend to her and her family 3 weeks before she died

willa45 Tue 10-Sept-19 14:00:32

"... MIL has always been overbearing and controling ......wanted her to accept me... said hurtful things to me and made me feel worthless ."

Typical passive aggressiveness! Two things come to mind....the first is that you need to stand up to her because she's also a bully. Bullies are emboldened by submissiveness. Wanting to be accepted by her may have actually been counterproductive. Remember also that she needed to earn your affection as well. Whatever you do, going forward, don't let her sense any vulnerability on your part.

Be kind and polite at all times, but especially firm and assertive when she behaves badly. Don't hesitate to call her out on her BS. "What did you just say to me?!....or "What makes you think it's OK to call me names or to disrespect me?" or "I hope this is the last time you use that kind of language in front of my son!" Start 'correcting' her and the earlier, the better. Stand up for yourself and for your son! If you do it right, she'll learn to respect you and more importantly, to keep her passive vitriol to herself.

dizzygran Tue 10-Sept-19 14:19:44

What a cow. Chin up big knickers on. Next time say that was not a nice thing to say. Ask her if her mil was as rude to her as sheis being to you. Remind her that you are very happy with your husband and your lovely son and hope that she wants to be part of your family. Good luck

Newatthis Tue 10-Sept-19 15:00:50

You need to stand up to this woman NOW!! Why don't you say something like 'Why do you always make nasty comment?" or "I'm so lucky that DH doesn't take after you as you seem to enjoy being so nasty to me, he must take after his dad/uncle/cousin etc!" This won't go away and as for the advice to 'laugh it off' this will just get bigger as she will think she can get away with saying anything to you. How long do you think that it will be before this will start causing problems with you and your husband. You're a new mum, you have enough to deal with without this nasty woman making this very nasty comment. Please take this advice - I know, I have been in exactly the same situation. I tried to 'keep the piece' or 'hope things will improve' - it doesn't.

Nonnie Tue 10-Sept-19 15:24:50

Anyone else noticed the OP hasn't come back? Will most of the new names disappear when this thread ends?

Kim19 Tue 10-Sept-19 15:34:39

I wouldn't retaliate aggressively. That takes you down to her level. However, I did read a suggestion on here recently where the MiL was looked directly in the eye and asked 'Did you enjoy saying that?' That method appeals to me greatly but happily I never had occasion for anything confrontational in my relationship.

theresacoo Tue 10-Sept-19 15:35:06

nasty woman.
remember that you hold all the power now.

mrneduc Tue 10-Sept-19 15:47:08

there are quite a few good ideas for you already but I would turn these comments back on her. I like the approach by mumofmadboys. Don't insult her in return but I have often asked the person concerned to repeat what they have said
eg
' sorry I didn't catch that' .Don't put up with this or it will inevitably create division between you and her son.

Lupin Tue 10-Sept-19 16:12:56

What a silly woman she is. It sounds as if she has become unthinkingly spiteful as a habit. I'm with those who advise you to stand up to her. Do it in as calm a way as possible but let her know she has upset you. Be ready for her. I hope your husband supports you in this.
I like Mumofmadboys response.
All the best with this issue, and congratulations on your baby.

sharon103 Tue 10-Sept-19 16:17:32

Horrible woman. I would give her one of my looks and say sternly, PARDON?

Grammaretto Tue 10-Sept-19 16:49:07

Is your DH her only son?
That's hard if he is because you need allies!
I know someone a lot like your MiL but she is so well known for making horrible caustic remarks that there is always sympathy and we compare notes.
Young women are her particular target for cutting comments. Body shaming, taste in clothes, badly behaved children, ugly children (in her eyes) etc. She pretends she's being funny especially if anyone acts offended.

It will be jealousy. Respond with pity.

Solonge Tue 10-Sept-19 16:50:33

Do you have an iPad or similar....? Tell her you thought it would be nice to video her visit as last time she made a couple of comments that sounded so very unpleasant and rude...you couldn’t quite believe she really said them. Smile all the time....and if she is rude...swoop in and remove your child and make it quite clear....whilst smiling, that Nanna will be in the naughty corner till she can control her tongue. Don’t let her get away with it...she is testing you and if she thinks you are weak she will walk all over you. I do hope your husband supports you absolutely....we all love ours sons and daughters...but their own partners and children should come first for them.

Saggi Tue 10-Sept-19 17:12:12

She’s a bitch....sort of thing mine would say when her son was not there.... the. All over me when he was in the room. She told me from day one that she’d seen off all her precious sons girlfriends and would do same to me! I told her to ‘bring it on’ . She did t see me off but continued to rule over her son till the day she died. She tried to muscle in the same and take over when our son and daughter were born . I kept them as far away as possible from her toxicity ! ! They never liked her and didn’t mourn her passing when they were 16 and 13

Aepgirl Tue 10-Sept-19 17:17:56

I have no advice except to let your husband know how she treats you.