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swampy1961 Mon 13-May-24 17:36:38

.... to go with this. We presently look after two GS two days a week plus other days ad hoc when other GPs or DiL or DS is working. We have them for breakfast and then take them off to school which is 3 minutes walk away. We would also collect them from school and until recently used to feed them their tea until they started being awkward as they wouldn't eat the same things (and I won't pander to that rubbish!)
So they are offered a snack but will very often just say no - as one will say no and the other copies them!! Unfortunately my DH was quite hurt (plus a little annoyed) today when one of them actively said he didn't like DH and didn't want to come here.
Now I know that this subject has been raised with DH's son before as both boys can be really quite rude and we had voiced concerns about them coming here willingly.
But he ignores not only his boys feelings (which IMO is rubbish parenting!!) about being here but also ours -not because we don't wish to be hated or disliked but I have always maintained that if anyone has feelings about people they come into contact with then they should be allowed to address those feelings. After all, we have all come across people that we have internally thought don't like or trust them - no rhyme or reason it is just the way it is!!
It could be made worse or better by the fact they are due to be joined by a sibling in September - and DH's son wants to pay us as DiL wants to increase her working hours. I don't want to paid for looking after our grandchildren but neither do I want to look after 2 possibly 3 GCs that are hostile towards us and having to do this for definitely 3 days with other days thrown in because they have not sorted their childcare issues. (we are often text messaged at 10pm the night before to fill in!!) It is hard at this point not to feel used and taken advantage of just because we are convenient for their school!!
The boys are not particularly talkative and will show up with iPads and then ignore all attempts at conversation - to be fair the older one is more receptive but the younger one is often just out and out rude.
Any thoughts please? We have another 8 GCs ranging from 7 months to teenagers to adults and just don't know how to handle this issue.
I'm trying to sort out my feelings about this so please be gentle - I swing from being hurt for DH, concerned for their feelings about me, and sometimes angry for their behaviour towards us not to mentioned feeling used by DHs son and DiL.
We are away soon and I am tempted to say to SS that we skip looking after the GCs from now till we return from a holiday in a few weeks time. DH is much like me - swinging from one thing to another - but neither does he want us to be used just for their convenience.
Just for the record we refused to do any holidays from the start as having the GC's from 7am till 6pm was not okay with us. We do look after other GCs through the holidays by arrangement with various other sets of GPs - marriages and re-marriages have made for a very extensive blended family!! If not complicated at times!!

cc Wed 15-May-24 18:38:08

We have two GC (8 and 4) here most mornings from 7am and at least two evenings a week until 6.30. They were adopted three years ago and were very fussy eaters initially, but now happily eat normal food. There have been occasions when they didn't fancy what I'd cooked but we and their Mummy have a rule that they do at least try the food and usually they'll eat it. We've worked out a relatively heathy breakfast of cereal or porridge, boiled eggs with soldiers and chocolate milk which they like. Sometimes it takes an age for them to eat everything but we just sit there until they've finished. We don't have to leave for school until 8.15 so there's not usually any rush and less pressure on us all.
In the evening I usually cook them an early supper of food that they like, prepared in advance or cooked in the air fryer: pasta with sauce and cheese, sausages or nice burgers in buns, baked chicken thighs, fish and chips, pizza etc. Every couple of weeks we all go out together to the local Italian for a meal together and they enjoy virtually everything on the menu, having tried everybody's different choices.
Perhaps part of the solution would be to agree with them a list of five simple meals they both like and are willing to eat? Fighting over mealtimes is really so counter-productive.
We don't have their ipads in our house but play simple games with them in the evening, do their reading or straightforward homework, or watch fairly inoccuous TV.
If one of them is rude to us, which happens rarely, we let their Mummy know and she give them a good talking to. They understand that what we say goes, just as what she says goes in her house.
Fortunately her rules are pretty much the same as ours, though we don't have as much screaming, running around and jumping in our house as she does.
My granddaughter did go to breakfast club and after school club in the beginning but it is a very long day and also pretty expensive. She was exhausted by Thursday night so I started picking her up after school for a couple of days at the end of the week. There are children who do this all the time, I've no idea when they actually manage to do their homework and reading.

cc Wed 15-May-24 18:44:48

Having read more posts I see that some afterschool clubs are only until 4.30. Ours went on to 5.45.

Cossy Wed 15-May-24 19:12:01

MissAdventure

Oh.. that's made me cry! smile (Lord knows why...)
Congratulations.

I too send many congrats.. we don’t live that near our one and only grandchild so see him about once a month, but now he’s older we will have him to stay in Summer hols, like we did the past two years.

WelshPoppy Wed 15-May-24 21:24:20

My granddaughter uses headphones in my house, my house my rules. If she breaks them, no iPad as I don't want to listen to the rubbish she is watching.

utop51 Wed 15-May-24 22:44:00

Hello
I also help with grandchildren and have for the last 10 years as my eldest grandaughter is 15 and my youngest grandson is 2
I think the best way through is communication - You need to discuss times and roles. I have always shared with my daughters times and expectations . Some days I am not available as I am on my workshops etc but together we make a plan. We talk about food and diets and the children know what snacks or meals they can have here. The children and I have fights but both parents and children understand they are in a safe environment and can act these out -e.g frustrations from school. Yes they refuse foods but I treat it like a school dinner where they order the day before

V3ra Wed 15-May-24 22:46:07

MissAdventure

Sounds lovely.
Would you take on a 61 year old instead? wink

Any time 😊 But better when the children have gone home 😘

MissAdventure Wed 15-May-24 23:07:58

grin

Knittypamela Thu 16-May-24 09:30:20

I really think that looking after these boys is too much for you. You're not enjoying it and neither are they. The children could go to after school at nursery. It's time to enjoy your retirement. You've raised your children now its time for days out together. I hope you have the courage to just say you've had enough.