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So if you can’t tell the difference, you have no idea whether that person is cheating the system or not. Which is why the behaviour of one fraudulent person casts doubt on the validity of the nonfraudulent people.
It’s wrong, but it’s a fact of life in many situations. And every time it happens, it makes it more difficult for genuinely disabled people.

Which is why the behaviour of one fraudulent person casts doubt on the validity of the nonfraudulent people.

This is rubbish, sorry. In some suspicious minds maybe, not in most people.

daughterofbonniebelle

A physio I know had a shoulder injury & couldn’t practise. She got a job assessing sick people for benefits. If the applicants, no matter what condition, eg motor neurone disease, schizophrenia, MS or anything else, said they could walk to the shops, they didn’t get the benefit.

That's dreadful. And quite apart from the sheer inhumanity, it also takes no account of what sort of work people can reasonably do. Depending on education, previous experience and so on, there are those who are unable to walk but are capable of working from home, and they should have the chance to do so; but I'm talking about someone with a condition that 'just' means that they can't get about easily - not conditions where the inability to walk is the tip of the iceberg. IMO anyone with something like MND should be left alone and helped to spend the rest of their days as happily as can be managed.

On the other hand, there are people who may have never done office-type work and even before becoming ill or disabled would struggle with admin and similar roles. That should be respected too.

I wonder whether vacancies for roles that are based at home should be offered first to disabled people, so that they have the chance to work if they are otherwise able to do so. I'm not talking about coercing anyone, but giving the opportunity for independence to those who may want it.

Why do we need to judge people, it may be an invisible disability, blue badges are given for these conditions. It is wrong of society to judge. As i have posted before you may not be privy to all the information. I would treat people kindly and not judge as it’s not any of my business. Discrimination against the disabled is rife , use kindness as a first reaction.

volver3

^Which is why the behaviour of one fraudulent person casts doubt on the validity of the nonfraudulent people.^

This is rubbish, sorry. In some suspicious minds maybe, not in most people.

It depends whether you’ve been affected. Since you haven’t, you can put yourself in the happy position of not suspecting.

e.g. Since being mugged at night I always carry a proper spray and an alarm. Do I think all people out at night at the same time as me are going to attack? No, but it does make me suspicious.
You obviously wouldn’t have problems like that. You’ve never been scammed, or defrauded. Lucky you!

There is no justification or excuse for discrimination and prejudice

"One fraudster" is even worse

And no fraudster has anything to do with those who have genuine need and only give themselves a bad name

Anyone who thinks that it is acceptable to conflate the two is a pretty rubbish human at the very least

I’m sorry yo endured that Molly go but you can’t view everybody around you on the behaviour of the person that attacked you. Maybe therapy may help you unpack all you are feeling.

Mollygo

volver3

Which is why the behaviour of one fraudulent person casts doubt on the validity of the nonfraudulent people.

This is rubbish, sorry. In some suspicious minds maybe, not in most people.

It depends whether you’ve been affected. Since you haven’t, you can put yourself in the happy position of not suspecting.

I had a blue badge for 2 years after a Huge Bilateral Pulmonary Embolism left me unable to walk the 100 yards from the car park to the door of my work without stopping several times to sit down and have a "wheeze".

I looked the picture of health but my lungs let me down. I used to wonder, do they all think I'm skiving? Not that I cared, I knew I needed a blue badge.

I don't have one right now, but I'll probably need one again in the future.

You've never needed a blue badge? Lucky you.

If you pepper sprayed random men walking past because you were worried about mugging you'd still get done for assault

Which is why it's not ok to victimise people you don't feel look disabled

It's hardly likely that Mollgowill be pepper spraying random men walking past is it.

Nobody ever said it was!

Again it’s judgment based on feelings not facts. I see lots of people without a blue badge taking spaces .

Smileless2012

It's hardly likely that Mollgowill be pepper spraying random men walking past is it.

Exactly the point

So why are Molly gos view directed at the disabled. She seems to imply that all are scamming her or attacking her like the mugger. Massive leap in how she’s viewed the evidence

She's not implying that at all Rainnsnow. I suggest you read her post @ 13.17 again.

She said the act of one fraudulent person cast doubt on the validity of non fraudulent

I have breathing difficulties which can mean that standing for a long time is difficult. It comes and goes, (but seems here to stay now) but I remember years ago waiting for a bus which was late, which meant that there were more people than seats. It was at one of those stands which has seats round the outside that people don't use, but form queues based on who was there when they arrived, so nobody really knows where the 'right' place is meant to be. I took a seat as I was wheezing and I did get on the bus ahead of some people who were already there, as I knew I'd struggle if I had to stand.

A man got on, and made straight for me, and said loudly 'You don't like queueing, do you?' in front of all the passengers. I was mortified, and couldn't think of a reply. My eyes are pricking just thinking about it. It was so horrible, and unnecessary, as I was genuinely in need of the seat, but it didn't show. If that ever happened again, I would say in a similarly loud voice that not all disabilities are visible, and ask why he thinks that anybody is compelled to explain themselves to him.

Doodledog Good explanation for those who question.

I've also learned from your explanations of possible causes to excess body weight (thyroid problems, Cushings, menopause?, lack of sleep etc) to attempt no "why can't that person just diet appropriately?"

Thank you.

Yes Rainnsnow that' what she said. She did not "seem to imply that all are scamming her or attacking her like the mugger".

What an awful experience Doodledog.

Norah

Doodledog Good explanation for those who question.

I've also learned from your explanations of possible causes to excess body weight (thyroid problems, Cushings, menopause?, lack of sleep etc) to attempt no "why can't that person just diet appropriately?"

Thank you.

Yes, Graves disease (with complications too tedious to go into) has left me overweight, and the breathing problems (possible Pulmonary Hypertension - tests ongoing) don't help, as I can't exercise much at all.

She said if u can’t tell the difference you have no idea , she did imply.

As other posters have put some disability’s are invisible

Rainnsnow

I’m sorry yo endured that Molly go but you can’t view everybody around you on the behaviour of the person that attacked you. Maybe therapy may help you unpack all you are feeling.

You need to read carefully. Your interpretation of my post wouldn’t even have got you through a KS1 reading SAT. Your problem, not mine.

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