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This is absolutely nothing to do with the disability issue but I cant tell you how much I loathe the whole get some therapy and be nice advice to women who have been assaulted.

Galaxy

This is absolutely nothing to do with the disability issue but I cant tell you how much I loathe the whole get some therapy and be nice advice to women who have been assaulted.

And now you know who, on GN. would recommend that.

The problem is, as a woman who has experienced a few awful types of abuse sadly... We aren't responsible for what happened but we are responsible for our own healing from it.

Otherwise trauma takes such a toll on your physical and mental health

But muggers or any type of violence towards women has absolutely nothing to do with benefits claimants and whether or not frauds make all claimants look bad

Spoiler Alert

It doesn't

Some are actively using it as an excuse for some sort of judgemental attitude they believe they have a right to have... Despite little knowledge or understanding of other people's medical needs

Which is actually against the equality act

Can't help it. Feel all those blaming and criticising should listen to this and take in the words. Joan Baez- There but for Fortune.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwXO0sbN4pc

Vs in the extreme going on here.

We just live in a world with far too many crappy people

The weird sort of cosmic punishment is that crappy people don't understand the level at which they cause their own misery

We owe our disabled a right to live a meaningful life

We don't owe crappy people our time to listen to their constant search for things to moan about

I have had someone tell me I am too young and pretty to be disabled so could I explain why I had a blue badge. I offered to strip in the street so he could see all my battle scars and he was mortified. I followed up with a spiel about how offensive he was being. I hope he won't put anyone else through it. He's not been the first person to question me. When I was younger with kids I had a complete numpty shout at me because if I was disabled I wouldn't be able to push a pushchair. Leaning helped me walk further!

Deedaa

We lived on benefits for two years before my husband took early retirement when it became obvious that he would never be well enough to work again. After the financial worry, the endless jumping through hoops to be awarded anything, the endless form filling, and the constant economising, I can't imagine why anyone would choose long term benefits as a way of life.

This

The fraud rate for benefits is 0.007% yes less than 1%. The majority of those defrauding are single mom's who move their boyfriends in and don't tell the DWP.

The fovernment know this however they sold the lie of benefit fraud being far greater than it is so they could demonise the most vulnerable in society.

If you want to look where the real fraud happens take a look to the city wallers, elite and Westminster

You really don't have a clue if you think people are better off on benefits or if you think they are easy to get because they aren't

Mollygo

e.g. Since being mugged at night I always carry a proper spray and an alarm. Do I think all people out at night at the same time as me are going to attack? No, but it does make me suspicious.
You obviously wouldn’t have problems like that. You’ve never been scammed, or defrauded. Lucky you!

Not the same thing. At all. Why would you think you have any right to judge anyone on disability benefits ? They will have been assessed and will have provided medical evidence to support their claim and the DWP will have judged them to be eligible. Given all that, what business is it of anyone’s ?

Pammie1 I wasn’t judging anyone despite what the vs group think.

I still don’t understand the link implied from mugging and the disabled. Look up Jack grealish and Kevin sinfield , these have a wonderful attitude to the disabled.

As an analogy it was a spectacular own goal

Wonderful, violet sky .

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Now will it be flounce . . . or report?

Rainnsnow

I still don’t understand the link implied from mugging and the disabled. Look up Jack grealish and Kevin sinfield , these have a wonderful attitude to the disabled.

There is no link. It is an analogy. If someone has been mugged, they see all people out at night as potential muggers. If someone knows of benefit fraudsters who don't look ill but say they are, they see all well-looking claimants as potential fraudsters. It's the same process.

I don't agree, but I can follow the logic. It's not difficult.

It's not difficult well it seems to be for some Doodledog.

Not difficult, just unfortunate wording. There is more than violet sky that have aired their views on the subject of disability. Lots that have personally experienced the system have suffered discrimination. The disabled are an easy target.

I have also explained that I have had false assumptions made. I get it. But if it’s just ‘unfortunate wording’ why pretend that you don’t ‘understand the link between mugging and the disabled’? You are making the link - Molly was talking about an analogy.

Saw this first thing and thought of some of the unpleasantness in this thread.

O.2% PIP fraud, 1 in 500

www.disabilitynewsservice.com/miniscule-benefit-fraud-stats-show-ministers-hostile-video-was-shameful-and-disablist/

Yes, those statistics really go to show that a tiny minority should never make all claimants look bad

PIP is incredibly hard to get and so many are suffering because of that

Attitudes towards claimants has a direct impact on that.

Chardy

Saw this first thing and thought of some of the unpleasantness in this thread.

O.2% PIP fraud, 1 in 500

www.disabilitynewsservice.com/miniscule-benefit-fraud-stats-show-ministers-hostile-video-was-shameful-and-disablist/

And we're are the 'call out the scroungers' brigade in response to this evidence?

Nowhere to be seen. Of course.

Sigh. There are no 'call out the scroungers' on this thread. Just people with experience of those few chancers who spoil the perception of the multitude of absolutely legitimate claimants. It's a more nuanced issue than some seem to see. However, feel free to look for an argument if it suits you.

We all have a moral compass and life experiences of ours and those around us will impact on that. Some people will verbally condemn those deemed different. Others become keyboard warriors and report . Getting the correlation between who had called out would be very difficult to obtain if not impossible due to how Data is shared. Lots of people wouldn’t formally report perceived fraud but may make verbal comments.