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Tia

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Barrow Fri 10-Aug-12 17:19:00

Just seen on Yahoo that the police have found a body at her grandmothers house and are lookimg for the grandmothers boyfriend. What a terrible world we live in

Anagram Sat 11-Aug-12 21:40:06

Oh, sorry - didn't mean to offend.

nanaej Sat 11-Aug-12 21:54:53

We all make prejudiced assumptions. All landed gentry are chinless wonders/Eton toffs, middle classes are prigs /small minded, all plumbers are going to rip you off etc etc. It is when a person is in difficulty that these prejudices can do real harm. Just look at the media coverage about the Rausing case vs this case.

merlotgran Sat 11-Aug-12 21:58:21

Hang on a minute. What has drug use higher up the social scale got to do with any of this? Eva Rausing and Amy Winehouse didn't murder a child as they sadly shuffled their way of this mortal coil?

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 22:00:30

nanaej beautifully put - I was struggling but you have succinctly written what I wanted to convey.

Annobel Sat 11-Aug-12 22:02:21

I know you didn't. Anagram. I'm being facetious as usual.

glassortwo Sat 11-Aug-12 22:02:48

Excuse me but my DH is a plumber and has never rippeed anyone off and I will stand up here and say he never would. [mad]

glassortwo Sat 11-Aug-12 22:04:07

angry but at the end of the day the only person that matters here is Tia!!!!!!!!!!!!! angry

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 22:05:09

merlotgran I am getting my threads confused and drug use is not the issue. Tia's death a tragedy - my concerns about media reporting should be confined to another thread.

whenim64 Sat 11-Aug-12 22:06:56

merlot Amy Winehouse didn't die of illegal drug use, according to her toxicology tests.

I think the discussion about drug use higher up the soclal scale relates to the references to class prejudice.

petallus Sat 11-Aug-12 22:07:20

I had the same reaction Annobel but I stifled it.

merlotgran Sat 11-Aug-12 22:09:01

nanaej I do not make prejudiced assumptions. angry I had a middle class upbringing, married a working class miner's son who then went on to manage a farm for the landed gentry. You carry on being prejudiced if it makes you happy.

petallus Sat 11-Aug-12 22:16:00

The reference to drugs is relevant because the Sun reported he is a crack dealer (or whatever) and this contributes to his image as a low life who might well be capable of murdering a 12 year old girl.

To some extent class prejudice comes into it because if the wealthy, well dressed and influential are found to be drug users, they are not denigrated to the same extent.

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 22:23:45

merlot we do make assumptions whether we admit it or not. It is part of our defence - is this person like me or not - are they a threat or not etc. Is working for the landed gentry a step up, down, sideways or no step at all from being middle class or miner's son?

merlotgran Sat 11-Aug-12 22:27:14

You're way off beam, grrrranny and I don't appreciate your patronizing manner.

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 22:44:08

Carry on being unappreciative then if it makes you happy.

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 22:48:05

Sorry that was childish of me merlot and certainly did not contribute to mature discussion

Annobel Sat 11-Aug-12 22:48:10

This is getting out of control. As I saw it, nanaej was reeling off a list of the kind of assumptions that are made in our class-ridden society. They weren't her opinions - or mine, or yours.

POGS Sat 11-Aug-12 22:49:29

For goodness sake does class have to come into every thread. This is about a child who has lost her life.

All GN's have a backround that will be different to another. That does not make any one of us better or worse than any other G.N. but comments certainly can cause upset, as proved time after time.

Class should be like beauty, in the eye of the beholder. It is plain daft to generalise because every class has good and bad people in it.

glassortwo Sat 11-Aug-12 22:54:38

pogs well said, some people on here have overlooked the poor little soul who has lost her life and are just banging on trying to prove their own point again!

POGS Sat 11-Aug-12 22:58:20

glass, very true. sad

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 23:01:17

I have tried to take other issues to other thread as this is not the place to bang on as you say. Just got a bit confused and kept wanting to reply.

grrrranny Sat 11-Aug-12 23:15:15

Human error led to delay in finding Tia - human error understandable but how agonising for Tia's mother.

POGS Sat 11-Aug-12 23:24:02

grrranny.

What do you think made police officers and sniffer dogs to miss the body?

Do you think the neighbour, who has been held for questioning, had the poor girls body at the time of the searches or am I going into the realms of fantasy, I can do that. It is very strange.

Anagram Sat 11-Aug-12 23:32:05

Tia's body was found in the loft, apparently. Sniffer dogs wouldn't necessarily detect anything from below - although the police officers should certainly have searched it. Surely the neighbour just gave a false sighting report, for reasons we don't yet know.

POGS Sat 11-Aug-12 23:36:24

Anagram

hmm