Were you offended?

Not offended media making mountain out of a molehill

Gg, now you have offended the many Scots on this site! just kidding!
I think the OP question was wrong because it implied that we might be personally offended which I wasn't but I did think it was an unfortunate choice of words.

The residents of the camps call it the jungle. There are two and they are hardly a jungle. There are shops, hairdressers, shops to charge your mobile,bicycle repair shop etc.

So racism is now allowed thatbags and Gracesgran because the person complaining about the slur is being intolerant?

I thought the part of the bagpipes that makes the droning sound was called the drone - but I could be wrong AD.

Soontobe could your try again as I don't understand your post. I am rather tired and have had a stressful day with my mother so I am sure it's me. I'm not sure what thatbags said, that has caused your objection but what do you see as "the slur" and what have I said that infers that anyone complaining about a slur is being intolerant. I'm sorry but I am completely lost.

soon missed an important bit, I think, namely that I think "there is no absolute right or wrong about this. It's a choice, a preference. That's all".

Then I made a comment, separately, about offendedness, in my opinion, often being caused by intolerance ("of other people's innocent choices" was implied).

Since these comments appear to have been called racist, god knows why!, I think my point has been well illustrated.

I too don't think that any of thatbags comments could be construed as racist in any way.

I dont mean that her points are racist.

I think it is lack of tolerance that drives all the offendedness that one hears about nowadays

Does not this comment mean that people who complain about racism are being intolerant?

Hardly a jungle ? I agree, far worse , not fit for animals

Your logic fails you, soontobe, in trying to argue from one point to one that is completely unconnected.

I think I thought that your post was carrying on from thatbags' post Gg, but maybe it wasnt, so I'll leave it at that and hope you have a nice stressfree evening.

BTW, I am not offended that something I said was thought racist but I am amused by the silliness "non sequiturness" of that idea. I hope you have a nice evening too, soon.

annieb, how is a place where there is food and where there are shops and tents to sleep in and places to charge one's electronic stuff "far worse" than a jungle?

You have not answered the question thatbags.

We will have to leave it at that.

thatbags, I find your question not worthy of an explanation , we obviously have the very opposite opinions on a human beings right to dignity and respect

annieb, I may be mistaken in thinking that the migrant camps are better than war zones or jungles with no amenities, even if they are not ideal, but that is what I do think. I think it because I think I'd prefer to be in a migrant camp than a war zone or a jungle. However, if you wish to think my question unworthy of an answer, go ahead.

soon, sorry, what question am I supposed to answer?

Oh, right. I've found it. This one: "I think it is lack of tolerance that drives all the offendedness that one hears about nowadays".

No, I did not mean by that comment that people who complain about racism are intolerant. So, as I used it, it did not mean that. Racism did not enter my head when I made the comment. I suppose, by a stretch, it could mean that but it would depend on the exact thing being complained about and what was being called racism, etc, etc.

I hope that answers your question.

Anniebach. What would you suggest? The French have supplied the tents, electricity, water. I can only think of purpose built brick buildings.
And who is going to pay for that?

In which case, I'd like to modify my comment and change "all" to "a good deal".

This thread is becoming more surreal by the minute!

That's partly why I'm enjoying it, roses.

A swarm of bees is not a plague. Bees swarm when they're looking for somewhere new to live. Sounds like the perfect word to describe large groups of people who are looking for somewhere new to live

What a sensible answer by thatbags!

Labour need to draw attention from their internal problems and anyone else who criticises and is in a position to do something about the crisis is merely deflecting from their own incompetence.

Your answers to mine are much better now thatbags, thank you.

So much for 'leaving it'...

Petra, my comments have been on the acceptance by you which seems to be their living conditions are suitable for them , - they are not, yes better than sleeping under the stars but it is an appaling place for anyone to live, being able to charge a mobile phone does not equal a roof, furniture and a place of security and safety. So no criticism of the French , just your and thatbags opinion on the slum