Should we be worried about right-wing populism?

daphnedill Actually I am. I would think most Indians will be voting out.

For what reason?
You are voting along with the group that do not want immigrants. Sorry, but it does not make sense to me.

Nobody knows what kind of limit will be put on immigration, but it's highly unlikely there will be more immigration from India, because there are already more immigrants from non-EU countries than the suggested 100,000 a year. Farage's poster suggests they're not welcome.

Nobody knows what kind of limit will be put on immigration

Your words.

Nobody seems to know very much about what will happen!

Hopefully nobody will vote on the basis of any promises made or because they're just hoping, such as more immigration from non-EU countries or giving extra funding for the NHS. It's all pie in the sky.

Yes, I know they were my words. Thank you so much for reminding me. I haven't lost my marbles just yet, but presumably the figure will be lower than the 300,000 pa we have now. If it's not significantly lower, it will all have been a waste of time.

Uncontrolled immigration. As I say.

You are nor making sense now. I am not saying that you are losing your marbles though!

obione (but who on earth were you before- I'm sure you were someobdy else here before, the tone is so 'déjà vu')... daphné makes a lot of sense to some of us- so don't be so rude. Thanks.

Farage poster is pure fascism.

It was not rude. Report me if you are bothered!!

writing the negative of something rude doesn't make it 'un'rude...

hey ho, think I got it now! Thought so!

The Farage poster. I hadnt had a proper look bwefore, and cant see all the words.

Personally I fail to see it, but you may be able to persuade me otherwise??

Just not swallowing the "uncontrolled immigration" line. The whole idea of the EU is that there is free movement of labour. Classic example (I've said it before and I'll say it again if necessary) is Ireland. In the years of the Celtic Tiger there was a very high level of immigration into Ireland from Eastern EU because the economy was desperate for their skills and hard work. I remember being in a changing room in a clothes shop and hearing EEU languages all around me. My BIL had an architecture practice in which nearly all his employees were EEU - because there were no Irish architects available.
Then the economy took a dive and suddenly - Ireland is back to minus migration again because most of the EEU immigrants went home. There is official data here to back up this post www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/er/pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2015/
We are in the same situation - shortage of labour - EU migrants arrive. Skills no longer needed, most return home. At the same time there are many Brits taking advantage of free movement - 2 million living on mainland EU I believe.
This is self-controlling, not uncontrolled.

Explain please Tegan. I am willing to listen and try to understand.

I cant be bothered to explain it JessM, so I will just ask one question. All the immigrants coming in and waiting, what are their skills and how many are there? Do you know? Does anyone? Does the Government?
Different thing entirely.

which immigrants waiting where? If you are talking about those waiting inCalais, Greece, Italy, etc etc- they are NOT from Europe- and BREXIT would be likely to bring them all here, as the EU Governments would facilitate that to get rid of them.

It seems to many in this campaign are mixing immigrant from the EU, and those escaping war, torture or abject poverty from outside the EU.

obieone Jess is right - that is exactly how the single market works so instead of immigration we should look at it as the free movement of people within a single market. This market stretches throughout the 28 countries. The only immigration we have is that from outside of the EU.

With regard to Farage poster, you need first of all look at the Nazi propaganda posters put out during the 30s then tell me the difference between the two.

No, you need to tell me, and Tegan too, how it is pure facism as you describe. You were the one who said it and so needs to justify and explain your statement.

JessM is talking about controlled immigration from EU countries. Just about everyone talks about uncontrolled immigration from elsewhere. It has been said before a few times.

Not putting up much of an argument obelone beyond repeating a slogan or two.
Don't suppose there will be very many leave votes from the NHS staff, who are a significant block (even when you take away all the ones who are not entitled to vote because they are pesky immigrants.)

Both these points have likely been talked about before. Off I go. I dont like to get bored.

Well that is a totally convincing and great argument, bravo.

Off to change name again, perhaps?

Interesting (or not) facts, but still factual:

Just over 50% of all immigrants to the UK come from non-EU countries.

Approximately 20% of all EU immigrants to the UK are from the Republic of Ireland. Irish citizens have had the right to come to the UK without restriction since 1924. Presumably this arrangement will continue.

If EU citizens are really desperate to come to the UK, they'll be able to acquire Irish citizenship then immigrate. Simples!

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