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Does a little bit of you...... (It's about that)

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jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 11:12:32

.... almost want the other side to win, simply because the follow up to the result would be so much more interesting? Yes, I know that is completely irresponsible. hmm

POGS Fri 24-Jun-16 02:22:44

I am finding Sky are better for showing the vote results , their format is easier to follow.

Hopping between channels 3, 130 and 132.

This is going to be so close to call.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:25:48

Markets are looking dodgy as predicted. Suggestion that the B/E may have to step in.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:27:44

As expected University towns voting remain

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:31:38

I don't think Labour's John McDonnell has it quite right by saying it's going a bit like a by-election, "...with many people airing their "grievances" - about austerity and wage freezes." It's more like the local elections were we see lots of protest votes.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:33:43

@ whitewave

There's something new going on with political leanings.

Nuneaton was a bellweather seat in the 2015 election, which was won by the Conservatives. It's just voted Leave. The BNP councillors won a couple of seats a few years ago, so clearly there are people unhappy with the state of the country. Politicians need to find out why. I really think we're living in scarey times - not just in the UK.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:34:23

Could also be along age lines.

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:35:14

That's my local area. It's not my constituency, I'm next door.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:36:52

Yes undoubtedly we can see a polarization - the centre is becoming a wilderness with the population fleeing to one side or another.
Bloody hell

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:37:48

Surprised at Wales going for Leave. Wales receives a huge amount of EU funding. I really can't see Westminster replacing it.

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:38:04

North Tyneside is Leave. shock

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:38:41

I thought Wales would be Leave.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:40:21

The London result will be important.

Do you think Scotland, London, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar and a few cities could declare independence?

It's ironic, because London generates more wealth than any other area of the country.

POGS Fri 24-Jun-16 02:40:27

Along age lines.

Joan Bakewell said that and a young man in the studio with her told her how wrong she was. That was on ITV.

Has there been a result from the north of England for remain?

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:41:16

But why? They're nuts (sorry, anniebach)

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:41:35

Newcastle

POGS Fri 24-Jun-16 02:41:54

Northern Ireland might be Leave?

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:42:54

Oh jeeze!

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:44:21

Blimey talk about an age of uncertainty.

No 10 must be in a state of panic. Wonder what Brussels is thinking

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:47:50

Jing will wish she bought her euros.

Bang goes my sons job

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:48:18

So many traditionally working class areas in England have voted Leave. It's much worse than I expected. Most of the big volume results aren't in yet though. I don't think anyone expected the results we've seen. MPs must be having kittens (being polite here).

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 02:51:43

My area has just voted Leave (50.7% Leave/49.3% Remain). This is a wealthy area with few immigrants and unemployment below 1%. Educational qualifications are higher than average. I don't think it's ever voted anything but Conservative in a general election. It is quite an 'old' area, because young people can't afford to live here and many leave home to go to university.

I don't really understand the mentality. I have spoken to two Leave voters this week. Neither really had a clue how the EU affects them, but both run small businesses and hope to do away with 'red tape' (ie. they're pi$$ed off at having to pay sick and maternity pay, etc).

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 02:54:57

So can we say what seems to be happening is that the working class are going to decide this vote. The political class is predominantly remain, the academic class is predominantly remain, the business class is predominantly remain,
What is going on?

POGS Fri 24-Jun-16 02:55:25

Is Liverpool the first northern result for remain?

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:57:31

No Newcastle was the first.

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 02:58:59

A lot of the traditional Labour areas voting Leave are former mining areas.