Does a little bit of you...... (It's about that)

Rees Mogg thinks if there is a recession it won't be because of Brexit. Hasn't he heard of cause and effect, or is he covering his back?

Back covering. There'll be a lot more of that to come!

That's Scotand gone.

Cameron is going to be pressured to act immediately about Leave[if it is Leave] I think,because of the financial markets.
They hate uncertainty, so he wont have the luxury of twiddling his thumbs.

What has concerned me all along, is whether Cameron has the vision to see through a Leave vote. I dont think he does going by waht he said for a month or two after the referendum was announced.

I would seriously consider moving back to Scotland when my husband retires if we leave the EU.

03.26am too tired to think or comment now. Off to bed. Probably!

Cameron will be gone.

I should try to get some sleep, but I'm scared of missing something.

I'm going to switch light off to see if I can sleep otherwise I shall be knackered as have mum to sort out.

As an aside, or perhaps not, I have noticed that some of the people posting to remain, live in Europe.

If I was living in Europe I wouldn't want Britain to Leave.

Same as Wilma.

Goodnight whitewave.

Short term, I dont think[if it is Leave] that it will be as bad as people fear by quite some way.

And medium and long term, yeah, at least good.

obieone that's true. There's several posters who live in France and granjura is in Switzerland (I think).

Sheffield vote out (big numbers too) and Edinburgh voted to remain.

It was when Welshwife said this week that she was living in France, that the penny dropped.
I envisaged Welshwife living in Wales!

Leave is pulling further ahead.

Time for sleep (if possible).

Advantage of being up at this time. Can speak live to relatives abroad. I am accumulating them more and more.

Goodnight Wilma

Can't sleep head buzzing

I can hear the birds waking up in the garden!

Good night all.

The pound is now down 8% - its biggest one day move ever.

DD

You can keep insisting it is all down to the Tories being at fault till the cows come home.

Labour have not been listening . I know Corbyn is highly respected by some but it is said , again by some, Labour haven't had a look in with the media and haven't got their case for remain over. Labour haven't got it's case for remain over because Corbyn has been weak, weak , weak. He has elected not to debate , unless it is with his core supporters in attendence or the under 30's on Sky. He went on The Last Leg and admitted his support for the EU was 7.1/2 out of 10. He has said so much against the EU he has actually been a candidate for the Leave Campaign. He has looked like a man who has been scared to get stuck in and chose to take the easy route with only his cronies getting near him

Labour have not been listening to what the working class have been saying. Labour have concentrated on Climate Change and Workers Protection as reasons to Remain. The problem is Corbyn has been saying about protection for all Europeans but he has lost the ear of those in the UK who know from experience the EU has not been good for those who vote for Labour and see EU workers undercutting their wages, seeing jobs moved to other EU countries because the EU has paid for this to happen.

The rhetoric from Remain calling people racist/xenophic has been negative for Labour especially. The working man does not appreciate the likes of Geldoff targeting working class fishermen. Labour are in a Westminster , London centric bubble and you are seeing the Labour vote has ignored the call to unite behind Remain because it is disconnected from it's leadership. People are showing they are fed up with a political elite who are not listening , they are not as thick as some people would believe but they know what is happening all around them and they want less beaurocracy and feel there is genuinely too much interference from the European Parliament /Commission and Court.

POGS I know what you are saying, but don't you think this goes back further than that?
Being that we have had a Tory government for the past 6 years what could Labour have done?
Of course the working class are fed up. We have had austerity on top of everything else and they are the class that always suffers.
How wil Brexit change that?

POGS

I haven't insisted on anything!

I have also written that I don't have much confidence in Labour, although I'd like to. I agree that Labour has been very weak on it all and I think both Conservative and Labour are going to have a new leader soon.

I do understand the complaints of people who resent the London-centric bubble, being a Northerner myself, who couldn't find a job and had to move South, but the people outside that bubble actually benefit from EU finance. Even fishermen now have a deal from the EU which is beneficial to them.

But...but...I don't live in a working class area, there are few immigrants and unemployment is low. Why did they vote Leave? On the face of it, they don't have anything to complain about. The disaffected working class theory doesn't explain it all.

I really don't understand what people think they will gain from leaving the EU.

Hi, I'm still up too. Was going to bed but put Auntie Beeb on and saw it was getting close so staying with it for now. Anyone for a ?

I am awash with tea.

Went to wake DS up so that he could come and watch and he sleepily, grumpily told me to shut the door! He did vote though, his first time.