An oath on British Values?

How is atheism imposed, annie? Nobody stops you from worshipping as you wish.

I object to Christianity being imposed on so many walks of life.

The photo is what I can see from my window every day, when I sit at my computer. It was a tongue-in-cheek response to another post.

I won't sear any oath on a bible, granny23. If I swear an oath I want it to mean something and I'm not going to go through a sham.

How is Christianity imposed Daphne?

Brendan Cox has the right idea.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/23/brendan-cox-urges-people-to-fight-rise-of-hatred-in-alternative-christmas-speech

These are the British values I believe in.

Are they British

What are you getting at, Annie?

'He will add, however, that another future is possible. “Just as it has become apparent that tolerance and tolerant societies are only as strong as their defenders – there is nothing inevitable about the rise of hatred,” he will say. “Instead of being a turning point for the worse, 2016 could be a wake-up call that brings us back together.”

Cox recorded the tribute to his late wife on the converted Dutch barge which the family called home. He will say that just a few weeks before she died, Jo had quoted Edmund Burke, who said that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. “That has never been more true,” he will say, adding that the need to defend tolerance and fair play “isn’t someone else’s problem”.

Cox’s message comes after the Prince of Wales warned that the rise of populist extremism and intolerance towards other faiths risks repeating the “horrors” of the Holocaust. Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s religious Thought for the Day slot on Thursday, the prince delivered an outspoken attack against religious hatred and pleaded for a welcoming attitude to those fleeing persecution.'

They should be British values, rather than those of Farage.
Did you actually read what Brendan Cox said?
I thought that the British were supposed to stand up for tolerance and fair play.

I am not tolerant ,

Really?

'Brendan Cox, the widower of murdered MP Jo Cox, is to warn of the creeping tides of fascism and xenophobia as he urges people to be more tolerant of each other’s opinions in this year’s alternative Christmas message.'

Perhaps if more people were tolerant of each other's opinions, instead of being xenophobic, Jo Cox would still be alive.

I really don't think it appropriate that the death of a young MP, wife and mother should be used as an argument just to get one over on another person in GN

I am not using the death of anyone and hsve no wish to 'get one over'

What bloody hypocrisy here, all that claiming to be tolerant crap, more tolerance of each other's opinions as long as theiy are my opinions , that's not tolerance .

No, I know you weren't Annie

We need to be tolerant.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/12/24/we-need-to-believe/

I suspect my oath on British values wouldn't sit well with many of the establishment.
I'd like to see people promising to work to eradicate poverty, to welcome asylum seekers fleeing war and starvation, to build and maintain relationships with people from other countries, to pay their fair share of taxes and to fully support the NHS.
The Royal family, HM Government and the establishment I couldn't swear to support so I suppose I wouldn't be welcome here!!!

For me tolerance means listening to and accepting people's fears and not dismissing them as being unfounded .

I'm with you, trisher. Like you, I doubt we'll get our idea of British values and tolerance accepted, though.
Richard Murphy's ideas are similar. It has nothing to do with religion or otherwise, either. I always seem to be agreeing with him, and he's a Quaker.

Probably because he doesn't push his religion.

Will you be watching Brendan Cox's alternative Christmas message on Channel 4?

Which proves there is no such thing as British values, each person has their own values and for me tolerance means accepting everyone's values even though they differ from mine. This is why I said I am not tolerant, I cannot accept Farages principles .

Accepting that others hold those values doesn't mean you have to accept the values, though.

No it doesn't, but it does mean acceptance of their values and acknowledging them, not claiming to hold the value of tolerance but only if one shares values

I don't understand what you mean, Annie.

Surely one can tolerate others' opinions and values without condoning them - not being able to do so leads to high blood pressure at the very least and wars at the very worst.

Quite simple Ana, there is no such thing as British values

Every time I read the thread title I mentally translate it as 'A curse on British Values' anyway, so I think I'm better off out of it!

I remember once a Dilbert (?) Cartoon about a board meeting, and the first item up for discussion was 'The Purpose of this Meeting'.

They never got past discussing if the first word 'The' was appropriate.

This thread reminds me of that cartoon

Strange to say there's no such thing as British values, as they have been part of the teaching in the national curriculum for over two years.

Gillybob, I have a message on a coaster which says,"Coffee keeps me going until it is acceptable to drink."
Somebody knows me.
Is it too early for coffee now, or too late for drink?