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Is Trump showing worrying signs of mental disorder?

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MawBroon Mon 30-Jan-17 22:09:45

This article in the Independent certainly gives food for thought, and puts things into perspective. It may explain a lot.
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/donald-trump-mental-illness-narcisissm-us-president-psychologists-inauguration-crowd-size-paranoia-a7552661.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Dyffryn Tue 31-Jan-17 16:51:27

Azie I feel exactly the same as you.

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:51:32

And people are rebelling against kakistocracy.

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 16:52:40

I wonder when the political elite on the left (it seems to be the left more than the right at the moment) will "get it" about their attitudes to the very people who normally one would expect to vote for them?

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 16:54:03

Don't you just love all these new (to me, anyway) words and phrases? grin

The politics of division (or divisive politics) is another one!

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:54:37

Errmmm! So you don't think that the globalist extremists are financiers, wealthy landowners or the aristicracy after all? I doubt if many of them are 'on the left'. grin

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:55:12

'Kakistocracy' isn't a new word on GN!!

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 16:56:15

It was new when Elegran introduced it the other day - unless you know different, daphnedill.

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:57:15

If the supporters of Malthusian theory, such as Mair, ever get their way, these 'little people' will perish - I suppose that's one way of sorting out the problem.

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 16:57:34

So it's not new now.

varian Tue 31-Jan-17 17:01:58

Kakistocracy -government by the worst people. Not just Trump but Trump's appointees are all uniquely unqualified for their jobs.

ddhttp://www.newstatesman.com/world/2017/01/donald-trump-ushers-new-era-kakistocracy-government-worst-people

varian Tue 31-Jan-17 17:03:27

www.newstatesman.com/world/2017/01/donald-trump-ushers-new-era-kakistocracy-government-worst-people

daphnedill Tue 31-Jan-17 17:03:40

Thanks, varian. It's not a new word to me any more.

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 17:07:42

Further to what I just said up thread, this is from Owen Jones:
"‘Unless the left is rooted in working-class communities – from the diverse boroughs of London to the ex-mill towns of the north, unless it speaks a language that resonates with those it once saw as its natural constituency, shorn of contempt for working-class values or priorities, then it has no political future. In Britain, Theresa May understands where history is heading, hence her clumsy, partisan, attempt to pit a supposedly unpatriotic liberal elite against a working-class for whom patriotism is a priority."

It would apply equally well in the US.

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 17:09:56

Oh dear, I can see I'm going to have to qualify every statement I make - OK then 'relatively new'.

I certainly hadn't heard of 'whataboutery' until you started dropping it into your posts, daphnedill and although I knew what a man of straw was I'd never come across a 'strawman argument'.

No need to be so defensive - I love learning new (to me) words smile

Ana Tue 31-Jan-17 17:12:17

x posts, I've gone...

rosesarered Tue 31-Jan-17 17:12:29

thatbags well, Owen Jones gets it at least!
I am happy to see new words, but if they are dropped into just about every thread lose potency.

thatbags Tue 31-Jan-17 17:15:21

For anyone who might be interested, This is the link to the entire article that quote is from. It's actually arguing against populism quite a lot. It's by Peter Hurst who describes himself as a social democrat and an idealist realist, among other things.

TriciaF Tue 31-Jan-17 17:22:14

Thatbags wrote:
'It would apply equally well in the US.'
[shock) - never!
To them, our rightist Labour Party people are extreme commies!

Hollycat Tue 31-Jan-17 17:47:21

I don't think he's mental, but because he is a hard nosed businessman and not a politician his style is not what the UK and the world at large expects. The surprise and shock that has been caused simply because of the speed and the very fact he has stuck to his election pledges says a lot about the deviousness of regular politicians. He certainly appears to be a man of his word, and while others usually try to weasel out of seemingly rash election promises, he has so far stuck to his. These are the promises on which he was elected, these are apparently what Americans wanted and now they're getting them. So perhaps it's wise to be careful what you wish for.

rosesarered Tue 31-Jan-17 17:51:44

Good post Holly I think you have it right!

Elegran Tue 31-Jan-17 18:00:38

Handmadedogsweaters says "Don`t worry my friends there won't be a war while Trump and Putin rule the world" but any war would not be between Mr T and Mr P or come from their sphere of influence. There are other areas of potential armed conflict - North Korea, which has nuclear capability and whose leaders already foster anti-American feeling, China if they get narked enough at how they are painted and feel like expanding their power, and ISIS of course.

MawBroon Tue 31-Jan-17 18:08:43

Indeed there are Elegran and if Trump were to attempt to challenge e.g.China, we would be dragged in as members of SEATO

In September of 1954, the United States, France, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Thailand and Pakistan formed the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization, or SEATO. The purpose of the organization was to prevent communism from gaining ground in the region.

Nannyanny Tue 31-Jan-17 18:17:18

I won't jump on this Trump bashing bandwagon, I'm tired and bored of it. Everyones suddenly an expert on him. I'm open-minded to all democratically voted leaders and this country should look to their own backyard instead of wasting breath on whatever may or may not happen across the pond.

handmadedogsweaters Tue 31-Jan-17 19:28:01

All this hate and vile spewing out of some peoples mouths is very disturbing. Then again I don`t suppose Donald is losing any sleep over it. In fact he might well enjoy the fact that the whole world is talking about him. The man wasn`t sneaky about his policies and he is keeping to his word.Wait till the next terrorist act carried out in the UK you will all be screaming for someone like him to be our Prime Minister.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 31-Jan-17 19:30:03

MAWBROON.
Ask yourself.
Who got the world into its present state in the first place ?
Why none other than Mr Democrat himself George Bush jnr and his lapdog Blair.
As you sow shall you reap.
Think about it.