Voting quandry

Watched Corbyns momentum rally yesterday. So embarrassing, vulgar, so not British , when have we had party leaders receive all that name chanting before a speech ? then he had to put on that forced 'here we are again, happy as can be' act.

When was any party leader greeted in such a way? Applause yes, but the chanting? Please so Beetles 1960's .

I agreed with one thing he said, we must learn from history or we will repeat it.

Someone once said on this forum that I should stop bringing up the 1983 election and the wilderness years, it's history.!

That is the hope for this country ?

I don't go much on these overwrought demonstrations of support either. But have a look at Kinnock's "We're Alright" 1992 Sheffield Rally, anniebach. www.google.co.uk/search?q=1992+kinnock+rally&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=CtcOWbrxIOqstgeG7JuQCw. The BBC described it as "the nearest British equivalent to an American-style convention". I know you're a huge fan of Kinnock so presumably that was OK.

No it wasn't ok, and I am not a fan of Kinnock he and his wife are friends.

He has said that evening was a mistake and I know he regrets it . But thankfully it was a one off .

The momentum cheer leaders unfortunately not a one off ,

And in fairness the Sheffield rally was after nine long , hard years of climbing out ofthe pit the far left had plunge the party into, it certaintly wasn't the day after a day of loss of hundreds of labour councillors and gains for the Tories

You have expressed your admiration of Kinnock several times on Gransnet.

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE. I AGREE WITH DAPHNEDIL!

daphnedill Sat 06-May-17 14:38:38

" Pah! I can't be bothered with your petty grievances ab. I'm not voting Labour, but that's not because I don't like Corbyn's hat, but because I don't think Labour has good policies"

Amen to that. √√√

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I can't be bothered with Annie's petty grievances either.
I agree with that.

I have never said I wouldn't vote for Corbyn because his dress code leaves much to be desired. I believe him to be dishonest and if he said tomorrow is Monday I would check the Calender .

I will admit I was surprised McDonald did't deny he was a Marxist this morning, he was honest

Eleothan, yes I have, but a fan? I admire the way he fought back against the militants even though Corbyn was working against him. I value the friendship, I think he would have been a good PM .

I'm sure you do durhamjen , we all find each others petty grievances annoying and I am sure there are plenty who find yours ,daphnedil and mine annoying too.

I was just agreeing with you about that, POGS, as you were with daphne.

A grievance is when you are hurt that you placed your trust in someone only to discover thst someone had worked against you and was not the honest person they pretended to be.

An idiot approaching seventy wearing a hat so very sixties isn't s grievance. It's sad the person looks a dickhead but it is amusing

POGS was not agreeing about ab as I think you realise durhamjen but about the 'Labour does not have good policies' from dd's post.

Yes ab I was surprised about the Marxist thing on Andrew Marr.Watxhing his performance reminded me that the UK would not be in safe hands if ever Corbyn and Mc Donnell got into power.Which, God forbid, they won't be.

The question is, would they resign! He more or less said that they would do, but we shall see.

I hive been right all along Rosesarered. So obvious why so many labour MP's left the shadow cabinet when Corbyn was elected. Much praise is given to the young for joining , they have not the foggiest of the dangers of communism , this is troubling, many of us can remember when young how we were going to change the world , then we grew up.

POGS said she agreed with it, roses. How come you can speak for her now as well as yourself?

I can just see you sitting in your rocking chair, Annie, all these young socialists at your feet, saying, "When I were a lass, we were really scared of all these reds under our beds. And we were right, so just you beware of the Corbyn or they'll come and get you just like they did....."

Honestly dj, do you have to be so patronising, Its SO tedious and pathetic. Can't you do us a favour and give it a rest?!!

(yawn)

Yes, it must be very tiring being so bitter and twisted...

Yawn.

after the losses on Thursday wait for the Labour manifesto, I am hoping for free holidays for all, all the ills of the country will be solved with higher tax from 5% of tax payers . He will promise so much now just to avoid a greater loss than Thursday , all he cares about is remaining leader.

I do have a lovely pine rocking chair but born and brought up in Wales I was never a lass, so very 'when the boats come in' ye lass ?

So Annie, who will you vote for?
I know you think that Welsh Labour is different, but in a general election you get the leader of the party in number 10.
Are you really going to vote for a different party to ensure that Corbyn doesn't get in?

What a brilliant reaction annie! So much better than indignation!!sunshine]