Voting quandry

How can you vote for lib.dems when they let the students down in the coalition party with clegg

Let's not forget which party first opened the floodgates and introduced tuition fees - something even Mrs Thatcher didn't dare do at the height of her powers, and at her most rampant.

As a relatively new British citizen (2012), though I have lived here for a long time, I find now that people are not voting for the party they prefer to avoid getting a party leader they do not like.

There is a problem with Corbyn in that he is not a team player. He cannot assemble a working cabinet. His cabinet is a disaster. How could he govern like that? He has a mantra and a vision, but those things do not create good government.

I do agree that the rich should be paying their fair share, but that's about all he can come up with to fund his ideas.

Good government is about compromise via debate and negotiation. Corbyn does not have these skills. Unfortunately, there are many excellent Labour MPs out there. I love our local one, but I do NOT want to do anything to put Corbyn into #10. He is a maverick and is still figuratively waving the sickle and hammer flag. You cannot magic up money to pay for things that we ALL would like to see funded. It's hard enough paying for the basics as it is. The government (as all developed nations) must borrow regularly to keep things going... I do not think the UK will ever see a surplus in their budget again regardless of who
or which party is in power. Neither will the US.

I have always been a labour voter, but i dont like Corbyn either, his comment about sitting down with the enemy and having a cup of tea is ridiculous, you cant reason with the unreasonable,
I will never vote Tory, i am disgusted with the way the sick and disabled are being treated, also as already mentioned the rise in retirement ages and women are suffering,not everyone can work until that age, as people get older a lot have health problems
I was talking to a lady a few days ago, whos daughter has a disease which affects her regarding walking ,shes really disabled[ cant remember the name of illness] and her mobility car was taken away, she was totally housebound, but they appealed and won, but genuine cases shouldnt have to suffer, its cruel,
I am already retired but hate to think of my daughter having to work until shes 66 or whatever age they decide on eventually,
I had never even heard of food banks until Cameron took over, and even his own mother disagreed with shutting down of first start and librarys etc,
Why are the tories targetting the older generation, and wanting them to work until they drop
What about all the young people who want jobs, but now have to be in education until they are 18,
I might vote UKIP i like Nigel Farage, he says what he thinks and doesnt care if they like it or not, but i dont like Paul Nuttall, and i dont think they have a chance anyway, because they havent set out a mandate
I dont really want to vote for any of them
Teresa May has done too many U turns for my liking, and i dont trust her
What has swayed a lot of people re; Labour is the immigration aspect of it, and not all are genuine refugees anyway
We just cant support all these people that are coming in
The NHS is in trouble , and people are suffering because of that too,
These politicians are lining their own pockets and getting huge pay rises while cutting ordinary peoples incomes
As far as im concerned the tories are a cruel party
Never voted for them never will
I know some are saying we should to keep Brexit,[i voted out] but wont under any cicumstances

jannenewton46 ;totally agee with you regarding Nick Clegg

You may not have heard of food banks before Cameron became PM, but they have certainly been around since the early 2000s and especially since the 2008 recession (when Labour was in power).

I've been looking at the parties statement so far, and a couple of things strike me.

The Libs have tried to be extremely detailed but I hope that their manifest will be much more disciplined. I think that they need to focus on actual policies and costing.

The Tories talk about the Nation and pride, strong economy and investment in the NHS. No actual policies - so for me they need to provide far more information.

Labour has focused on main areas and have costed them. There are many other areas that I would like to see outlined.

None of them except perhaps the Libs have really looked at Brexit. I think it is imperative that what each party wants to see a Brexit Britain should look like before we vote.

Perhaps you do, whitewave, but not all of us want to be told how to think, and what's 'imperative' to you may not be to others!

ana Sorry who's telling you how to think?

Brexit is by far the most important issue in this general election. Everything else will be affected by whether we leave the EU (we don't actually have to if we elect enough good MPs) and if we do end up leaving, what the terms are.

'If we do end up leaving...'? Oh, I give up.

IT HAS TO BE LABOUR ALL THE WAY! When you vote you vote for a parties policies surely. You only have to look at the frightening state of our hospitals and schools. Surely the sign of a good government is the fact that the society it governs is prosperous and it's ordinary people and workers are motivated and supported. That may be an ideal but good social structures are essential to a stable society.It is too easy to get distracted by personality cults. As an ex- teacher l know ( having taught in both private and state schools) that a good school is only as good as its Head and staff, and how it copes with its problem children. Jeremy Corbyn is a principled , hardworking man who l believe has shown strength and integrity in the face of horrendous attacks. This is exactly why so many young people are attracted to him precisely because he is so unlike our usual slick, lying, spin-led, politicians, who everyone is sick off because there is not a pin to choose between them. I just hope people can see through the propaganda, Save our NHS and vote labour.

Varian that's how I see it, and my best case scenario would be a coalition of all major parties so that most of the UK has a voice through their party.

Lazigirl said 'I do not want to belong to a party that is merely a protest party and one that never achieves power in order to change things.' Surely with this awful tory party there's a heck of a lot to protest about, and if we don't vote Labour then it's not going to help is it?

Ana I don't actually think Brexit is the end to be fair, may doesn't even want it really, she knows it will be disastrous.

A vote for UKIP is a wasted vote sadly, and will help the tories I believe.

Labour have already said they guarantee the rights of EU nationals in the UK from day one if they get in, and will seek reciprocal for Brits in the EU, and have stated they won't pursue a 2nd referendum, but will seek a softer exit from the EU.

Ramblingrose22 if you aren't happy with the current state of the UK then why don't you just tactical vote. I would imagine the very least we could get is a coalition and at least that way the tories won't have all the say on everything, they are practically a dictatorship at the moment.

Amazing how many new posters there suddenly are on GN following the accouncement of the GE! Wonder where they all come from...?

Announcement - Gah!

Bit like those who appeared before the referendum to promote Brexit

Er...not quite sure it's the same thing. These new posters are obviously anti-tory (and probably anti-Brexit) but don't really care who we vote for as long as it's not tory.

I cannot add anything Marbles -only to say I agree with you and feel the same.

So those pre referendum weren't anti-remain?!

I am voting Labour or LibDems anyone other than the CONseratives or UKIP.

Baffles me that some view Corbyn as a man of principle

I too am in a quandary marbles although unless I am convinced otherwise I will probably have no alternative but to vote Conservative (although where I live a monkey could stand for Labour and they would still get in).

My late grandad would turn in his grave.

As an employer I think a vote for JC will be a nail in the coffin for small businesses in the UK and indeed for business as a whole.

I think young people are attracted to JC as he promises things to them that he will never be-able to deliver.