Voting quandry

I'm sorry you think I'm rude, POGS - it shouldn't be too difficult for you to do your own research on these issues.

DD i understood you to say that people earning over £150 k pay keep 55% of their earnings above that figure. I simply said it was 53%.
The latest ONS figures show the earnings gap between higher and lower paid is dropping.
Posters seem to think that increasing income tax necessarily increases tax take. That's just not true. Taking money out of the economy can have exactly the opposite effect. Keynes, of course, said that govt. spending can make up for that, but he didn't mean spending on benefits.
I don't pretend to know what the absolutely perfect formula is but I think Labour are less likely to get it right.
In the final analysis we simply may not (pretty much certainly will not) be able to pay for all the things we want, whoever is in power.

Why can't you support Corbyn you do not say? I'm sorry but I get so frustrated when people say "I couldn't possibly support Corbyn" but give no reason. The main stream media are so biased against him especially the BBC. Look at his policies and what he stands for. If the Tories get in again you can say goodbye to free healthcare, more privatisation of education etc etc the list goes on. What exactly do you object to, free meals for children, ensuring the big corporations pay the tax, looking after the majority not the wealthy elite? I'm sorry to go on but it just makes me so angry. Teresa May is getting away with so much because she's making it about BREXIT again. She has had not been stopped doing anything in parliament, that's a nonsense. Why aren't more people challenging her on the issues that are important now.

fitz but what you can be certain of is that we will have the most right wing government ever.

That the NHS will be privatised, that LA schools will be starved of money because of vanity projects, millions of children go hungry, hedge fund managers stash the cash off shore and the economy will be in peril after the highly likely result of crashing out of Europe.

I prefer Labour or indeed the Liberals , where we stand a chance of having a kinder more inclusive society, where every individual is valued, where we are secure in the knowledge that our NHS and welfare services are also valued. Where Brexit will be negotiated for every individual and not just various factions.

Vote Tory and our beloved country will be unrecognisable by 2022

GranVee, I have saud many times why I cannot support Corbyn

Well said, whitewave!

Ana not sure if that is aimed at me or not, I'm new yes I usually use mumsnet for information, however coming across gransnet and being a new gran I thought I'd try it to find out about Wales as I'm planning a move there in the near future. I came across this post and posted, is there a rule against newbies getting into dialogues until they have proven they're genuine because if there is I've missed it.

nikki there are some people on GN who try to close conversation down. None of us take any notice of them, as we believe in a free society with freedom of speech.

My preference of government would be a coalition of them all not one or the other, as one or the other doesn't represent the whole of the UK.
I'm voting for party policies that will benefit myself and my family. I did the quiz to see who I should vote for and it was the Green Party but as they don't have a chance my next best is Labour.

Policies not personalities!

Thanks whitewave

Er...not quite sure it's the same thing. These new posters are obviously anti-tory (and probably anti-Brexit) but don't really care who we vote for as long as it's not tory.

Surely anyone who joins is welcome Ana?

The Libs will not form a coalition with Corbyn, and I am quoting Vince Cable not giving my opinion

Well, I can remember one or two who were hounded off by some because they were not welcome - I think at least one of them was a member of UKIP, which is apparently frowned upon...

As I understood it ana that person was banned from GN because of the racist and fascist rhetoric. Are you supporting that? And just for your understanding I reported her once for racially offensive language but that was long before she was finally banned. She is the only person I have ever reported.

No, I'm not supporting racist and fascist rhetoric, and after she'd been warned by HQ she stopped. In the end, it seemed there was something 'wrong' with whatever she said and I never did understand why she was banned.

No ana she didn't stop. Her rhetoric was appalling and any thinking person could not have possibly have supported her.

I thought you believed in a free society with freedom of speech?

Some things are against the law. And yes I am a passionate believer of free speech. But certainly not when it incites racial hatred,

You and I have different memories of the posts concerned then.

Perhaps you are more accepting of the racist rhetoric, and so didn't see a problem with it?

Oh, that's a bit of a low blow, even for you whitewave. In fact, I'd report it if I could be bothered, but I can't.

Why? I am certainly not calling you a racist if that is what you are implying. I am trying to make sense as to why you found the banned persons rhetoric acceptable, to the extent that you think it is unfair that she was banned. You have never said a single racist thing as far as I am concerned so your support of her is puzzling.

And I wasn't her only supporter. Others, too, were dismayed by the way she was treated by certain posters.

Water under the bridge now though.

OK - but remember who brought the subject up - it wasn't me.

I have to ask

How does a poster 'KNOW' for a fact another poster has been banned?