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Should I vote Labour Mark 11

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whitewave Fri 12-May-17 11:40:03

That's a bum, can anyone cut and paste or something the manifesto that took me blood sweat and tears to do this morning please!!!???

TriciaF Fri 12-May-17 17:14:38

Potential Pensioner's Party "PPP" - yes I think there is a party like that. But it has probably gone to the right - been taken over by the upper classes.
Because they live longer?

Ana Fri 12-May-17 17:22:54

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/11/labour-manifesto-ideas-right-state-role

Chewbacca Fri 12-May-17 17:24:23

Forgive me for querying a post from several hours ago but I've only just got back from work.

"Housing:
1000000 houses -council and association houses every year for 5 years
Building private homes will become a national infrastructure priority.
4000 homes reserved for homeless."

"Plant 1 million native trees".

May I ask where the 1 million trees will fit, once the 5 million houses have been built? There is already no more space to build houses in the major cities. Green belt is already being deregistered and built on. Brown fill has been filled. Where are we going to fit the trees?

Ana Fri 12-May-17 17:28:23

grin Don't worry, Chewbacca - it's only a Corbyn pipe-dream!

whitewave Fri 12-May-17 17:30:32

chewbacca grin. Difficult to imagine isn't it, but there is a forest somewhere up north which is being developed over a largish area but not ridiculously so and they have already planted 1 million trees. It is really quite easy.

Sorry it should be 100k houses!!!

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 17:42:25

The Woodland Trust aim to plant 64 million trees over the next ten years.

3 million acres of woodland is only 3.9% of the UK.
You'd hardly notice an extra million trees.

gillybob Fri 12-May-17 17:51:39

Jeez daphnedill I can't believe you thought my rant was aimed at you?

The "I wish" comment was in response to something innocent you had said earlier and the rant that followed was aimed at "people" (and there are plenty of them in society) who assume that anyone with their own business must be either fiddling or rolling in it Like Alan Sugar. I know it might not be clear (my grammar is poor admittedly) but I typed the kind of things people say to me (or think about me) and my responses followed in brackets.

I'm not surprised you were upset if you thought I was saying all that to you but I absolutely wasn't . I feel quite upset that you would even imagine I would say such harsh things directly to you.

I posted my last apology/reponse whilst sitting outside the bank waiting for my dad ( who insists on doing every bloomin thing with cash) so might not have sounded sincere. I Don't know what else I can say really. sad

whitewave Fri 12-May-17 17:57:40

That is a real difficulty when we chat to each other on here. If you are face to face people can watch your facial expressions, and hear the intonation in your voice. There are so many signals missing on social media, which is why I suppose it gets heated so quickly.

Chewbacca Fri 12-May-17 17:58:36

Sorry Durham, I just can't see this being a logical, or practical idea. The UK is rapidly running out of space for building houses on, just look around you. Houses are being crammed onto smaller and smaller bits of land. In my area, they've ripped hundreds of trees up and built on the land. As a consequence, that land now floods and the houses can't be insured. Add another 500,000 houses onto what's already been approved. Where? What land is left to build on, let alone stick 1 million trees on!

But I'll leave you to continue to champion the whimsical fancies of Corbyn. You'll justify his mad ideas, no matter what.

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 17:59:36

Just imagine - Corbyn, McDonald, McClusky and the Momemtum spokesperson sitting around a table writing the manifesto

More power to the unions and privatising everything, as you wish Len

Build new houses some private some council, that's Libs sorted

No talk of being a pacifist, country bit touchy about that

What about adding tree planting , should pleased the Greens

Come on, we have a whole excersise book to fill before we accidently release it to the Mirror

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Chewbacca Fri 12-May-17 18:23:21

"Corbyn, McDonald, McClusky and the Momemtum" that reminds me of Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble & Grub, from Trumpton. grin

Ana Fri 12-May-17 18:47:27

Did you see that photo of McCluskey sprawling on the steps with some woman feeling his ankle?

Poor man apparently tripped (mind you, he's 66 so perhaps he 'had a fall'!)

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 18:51:11

Chewbacca, I thought we needed a giggle, thank you ?

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:01:19

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/12/barry-gardiner-labours-media-man-on-fire-has-interviewers-feeling-the-burn-videos/

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:02:00

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/12/exclusive-gardiner-on-defence-manifesto-boulton-and-being-internet-sensation/

rosesarered Fri 12-May-17 19:04:48

Ana did he trip or was he pushed? grin

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 19:09:40

Before McClusky fell Corbyns car ran over the foot of a BBC cameraman, he was taken to hospital by ambulance , the cameraman not Corbyn

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:16:13

It was a police driver driving the car. Just in case anyone feels like blaming Corbyn for it.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:21:00

He is a lovely man Jen and beautifully well mannered but oh how he flatten Nick Robinson this morning; I was cheering when heard it.

I want to know what the parties have to say not the journalists (I may have said that on here previouslysmile) and he was totally right when he said Nick Robinson was 'trivialising' the debate. So many of them are doing just that are with arch criminal on this being Andrew Neil. I think there should be a review into the Beeb after the election as all they are doing is following May's lead - they are lickspittles and it's time we saw even handed coverage.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:21:31

Not that I feel strongly or anything grin

Chewbacca Fri 12-May-17 19:24:05

lickspittle love it!

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:25:14

It was a police driver driving the car. Just in case anyone feels like blaming Corbyn for it.

There was a guy on one of the Election programmes who was there to balance Polly Toynbee (although there was no balance as he was a Tory and PT - well!) and he gave a list of sins and the last was running over a photographers foot!!!

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:26:18

Yes, that Nick Robinson interview was on the link I gave.
I have seen Gardiner on a few interviews lately. He really knows how to pinpoint the discussion and keep it relevant.
I loved the way he told Robinson not to ask a question then answer it himself.
Anyone in Gardiner's constituency needs to vote for him whatever their politics, just to keep him there.

Ana Fri 12-May-17 19:34:40

Don't even know whether Corbyn can actually drive. Only ever seen him on a bike...

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 19:38:29

Corbyn was in the back with his momentum advisor