I Will Deal With It

17% thought they'd have their student debt cleared and 26% didn't know so it hardly shows "students did not think that Corbyn was promising to cancel their debts". It shows that not all students thought that's what he was promising.

Personally, I think it's a bit worrying that as many as 26% didn't know.

Maizied I'm confused - I didn't mean to misquote but isn't "nick_clegg apologised. Your turn Jeremy" more or less the same as saying Corbyn should apologise?

And round and round we go.

Sorry Primrose but unless we have a poll taken on the day of the election, which showed that students only voted Labour because Corbyn said that tuition fees would be abolished and current student loans cancelled, you will not be satisfied.

'flogging', 'dead' and 'horse'is coming to mind.

In the meantime Tories have put fees up to £9250.

Not at allworrying that 26% didn't know. What it means is that he didn't promise to cut their debts. If he had, it would be clearcut.

Eloethan

I'm not denying that Cable tweeted that Corbyn should apologise, I'm just pointing out that he didn't say that Corbyn had broken a pledge.

It's all bl**dy political games, anyway.

Anyone with half a brain and a reading age higher than their shoe size can hear or read what Corbyn 'actually' said and find that it wasn't what people are trying to make out he said.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-manifesto-general-election-2017-free-school-breakfasts-lunch-a7861836.html

Are we allowed to criticise May for this? She has definitely not dealt with this.

The summing up could be considered one-sided, as this statement could be considered opne-sided:

(apart from Jacob Rees Mogg who we can't shut up, but everybody thinks is a joke anyway)

Judging by what I keep seeing on FB ( a FB friend is obviously a fan of J R-M and belongs to a FB group!) he has a great many supporters, so not everybody thinks he is a joke I presume.

It's quite interesting to read another point of view.

Are you on the right thread, Jalima?

FB is a bubble Jalima, where you only see what you want to see and have very much or close to your own views repeated back to you.

I have a feeling that is why some people find having their views challenged on GN so difficult.

I agree with your last sentence GGM2

It is a consequence of the first one roses - you can't really just agree with the last one but at least it seems you are meeting me half-way for once.

Time that everybody found others opinions interesting, even if they don't go along with their views, comments may stay more civil that way.

To be fair to Cable and the Lib Dems, getting rid of tuition fees was their own pledge for their manifesto, they were not alone in power, but sharing ( being the much smaller party in government) with the Conservatives.
I think at that point the pledge could never have been kept in any case.

Corbyn may not have said he would get rid of student debt but he implied he would and some of his team of MPs said Labour would.

I have a feeling that is why some people find having their views challenged on GN so difficult.

Agree with you on this gg

I never ever post anything remotely political on FB GG - but a friend lives in Jacob R-M's constituency I think and must belong to a group which supports him, so posts keep appearing on my FB page.

I could be on the wrong thread MaizieD, who knows, they all morph into one

Ps just for balance another FB friend supports Jeremy C so I see posts supporting him too.

And DD is a Green

I don't live in a bubble, either on FB or in RL, although I do know some on GN have stated that they are glad that none of their family or friends think differently to them politically as they would find that a struggle.
Perhaps being a moderate helps, sitting on the fence sometimes can give a good view.

Absolutely Jalima my family are divided on lots of things ( friends too) but we never fall out about it ( and the world doesn't stop spinning.)

I have been out, come home and thought I had killed this thread!

Thank goodness someone has posted

To be fair to Cable and the Lib Dems, getting rid of tuition fees was their own pledge for their manifesto, they were not alone in power, but sharing ( being the much smaller party in government) with the Conservatives.
I think at that point the pledge could never have been kept in any case.

That's true rosesarered but what I found hard to stomach was the way so many of them, including Vince Cable then voted for a rise in tuition fees. Only a very few had the decency to vote against, or at least abstain in line with their principles and manifesto.

I think that Cable was backing up Clegg at that time nightowl but I take your point.

It is going to take the Lib Dems a long time to dig themselves out of that particular pit I think.

Clegg's desire for power seems to have been their undoing.

"I don't live in a bubble, either on FB or in RL, although I do know some on GN have stated that they are glad that none of their family or friends think differently to them politically as they would find that a struggle."

I can't recall anyone saying they would find it a struggle.
I am just pleased that we all have the same values.