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Does anyone else think Trump has a point?

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GracesGranMK2 Wed 16-Aug-17 09:03:18

I am really worried about the idea of re-writing history to suit either left or right and am thinking Trump may have a point.

I would not want Nazis or the KKK marching in my town (I would want the organisations banned, if it were in my country) but surely we have to be even handed if people are breaking the law.

AmMaz Mon 21-Aug-17 09:53:26

durhamjen, no you wouldn't understand my last post because the relevant info (my original post) has been deleted!

illtellhim Mon 21-Aug-17 10:14:50

AmMaz, you've won, when someone deletes your post, in this case durhamjen, except it as a victory, they can't reply to your augment.

I hope you have time to read this before its deleted. smile

durhamjen Mon 21-Aug-17 11:57:03

What? I never deleted AmMaz's post. Now I am even more confused.

illtellhim Mon 21-Aug-17 13:39:15

I'm so sorry durhamjen, I truly got the posts wrong, if theirs anything I can do to make this right please let me know.

To anyone who cares, it was oriel who got AmMaz post deleted.

My Mistake

durhamjen Mon 21-Aug-17 14:09:18

Thanks. I can now try to stop being confused by this thread.
Thinking of trump is confusing enough.

durhamjen Mon 21-Aug-17 14:13:47

Trump has been advertising for ethnic actors to go to his rallies and make them look diverse.

Oriel Tue 22-Aug-17 09:48:18

illtellhim I saw from your post on another thread that you post under three user names... is AmMaz one of them?

MaizieD Tue 22-Aug-17 13:22:33

Is posting under more than one username allowed, Oriel?

Which ones is illtellhim using (so I know which ones not to bother reading...)?

lemongrove Tue 22-Aug-17 13:26:55

No, it isn't ( according to GNHQ) but will be hard to detect.

MaizieD Tue 22-Aug-17 13:44:14

It can't be that hard to detect if the 'illegal' poster is announcing it themselves grin

I'm interested to hear what Oriel says...

Oriel Tue 22-Aug-17 14:52:46

I was reading a thread (will try to find it) where illtellhim said that she posted under three separate user names.

Oriel Tue 22-Aug-17 14:56:18

Here's the post from illtellhim - it was written under a thread titled 'Found out something new about yourself'

*Hi Jane10, it would really help me if you told us what book you're on about.

As for finding something out about myself, well no, I've don't think I've ever been interested in anything, in fact I've often been in awe of what other people do but could not be bothered to start, quite boring really, well I'll tell you, from 7 till 9 every morning I'm on GN, have been for years. I also post under 3 different names, other GNetters do it, but that as far as it goes, defiantly, quite boring really.*

petra Tue 22-Aug-17 16:18:50

And now we have the loony left wanting to pull down Nelsons Column. Written by a Guadian journalist.
I would like to hang him/her from the column.

grannysue05 Tue 22-Aug-17 16:24:45

Is this post still supposed to be about Donald Trump?
If so, what do others think about his latest statement regarding sending troops BACK into Afghanistan ?

willa45 Tue 22-Aug-17 16:57:24

In my view there is no such thing as racial 'superiority'. We all belong to a single race....it's called the Human Race.

If there was such a thing as an 'inferior' human, race, ethnicity, intelligence, physical defect, incapacity or skin color would have nothing to do with that.

The inferior type of human would be those individuals who motivated by hate and anger raise automatic rifles and hate symbols while advocating the destruction of other fellow humans!

Deemed unusually loud and 'morally defective', they should be publicly shamed, tattooed (on the bum) and banished forever, for being worth much less than normal people! wink

nigglynellie Tue 22-Aug-17 18:10:24

Apparently Nelson was a racist (maybe, most people of his era were) and more bizarrely a slaver!
As Nelson joined the RN at the age of 12, and remained in the RN, spending comparatively little time in England, until he died on board the Victory, how he managed to trade slaves is hard to understand?!
Pull Nelson from his column loony left, at your peril!

petra Tue 22-Aug-17 18:23:49

grannysue05
It appears he was persuaded by one of his generals showing him a picture of women in mini skirts walking through Kabul. He's so shallow grin

lemongrove Tue 22-Aug-17 18:36:52

Who, Nelson? ?

MaizieD Tue 22-Aug-17 18:37:10

Nelson's wife was from a West Indian plantation owning family. Without looking her up I can't recall if she retained any West Indian interests (i.e had an income from a slave worked plantation) after she married him.

Nelson was also stationed on Jamaica during the early part of his career, the navy being there to protect British slaving interests in the West Indies.

Those are the only connections that spring to my mind. I suppose I'd better find the Guardian article to see what justification the writer gives for wanting to tumble him from his column...

durhamjen Tue 22-Aug-17 18:58:15

secure.avaaz.org/en/trump_hands_off_our_internet_loc_fr/?slideshow

This is a bit worrying.
Anyone on facebook who signs, please put it on facebook.

durhamjen Tue 22-Aug-17 20:33:29

twitter.com/AndromedaNGC/status/899680343363657732/photo/1

Trump and the eclipse.

durhamjen Wed 23-Aug-17 21:44:57

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/08/former-british-ambassador-to-us-says-trump-rally-had-shades-of-1933-germany/

Scary. This man was the ambassador from 2012 to 2016.

durhamjen Wed 23-Aug-17 22:05:28

Someone else worried about how trump behaves.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/23/ex-intelligence-chief-trumps-access-to-nuclear-codes-is-pretty-damn-scary

GracesGranMK2 Wed 23-Aug-17 22:09:16

Oh dear. It sort of feel OK if I am scared but if this guy is too I am very, very scared. What has happened to the world?

durhamjen Wed 23-Aug-17 22:17:20

I know what you mean. You wonder if you are overreacting, but there are too many experts who are worried about his behaviour now.
The problem is what to do about him.