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Corbyns Inertia

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Primrose65 Fri 15-Dec-17 20:22:17

A continuation of www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1241620-Corbyns-Momentum

Corbyns unknown peace prize was in the Mail today apparently. He joins a long list of people awarded peace prizes you've never heard of. Like the Confucius Peace Prize won by Mugabe.

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 13:10:44

Welshwife, that's why British rail fares are the highest in Europe.

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/4203/realising-the-potential-of-gb-rail-summary.pdf

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 13:16:50

We know public ownership is possible because we've done it before. Recently.

In 2009, the East Coast line was taken into public ownership (after National Express walked out on the contract) and it was a huge success. The service had a 91% customer satisfaction rate, required much less public subsidy, paid back £1 billion to the Treasury and was the most efficient franchise in the UK.

The government reprivatised the East Coast line in 2015, handing it to Virgin Trains. But this example shows that if the railways were run for people not profit they could keep passengers happy and save us all money.

Now Virgin and Stagecoach have walked out on the franchise, three years early.
A perfect time to renationalise a railway - pity Corbyn's not in power.

lemongrove Wed 27-Dec-17 15:24:15

Fortunately.....it doesn’t matter, because we are leaving the EU soon and Corbyn is not in a position to do anything in the UK, either selling off or privatisation.Thank goodness.

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 15:42:22

That doesn't make sense, lemon.
Selling off is privatising. Corbyn wants to renationalise the things that should be nationally owned anyway.

How soon are you going to leave the EU?

It's going to be at least four years before we are supposed to, and there will be another election before then.

Primrose65 Wed 27-Dec-17 16:17:03

You can read why Micheal Holden, the chairman who ran East Coast when it was brought back into public ownership by Lord Adonis, thinks that renationalisation of the railway is a rubbish idea here

www.railmagazine.com/news/network/nationalisation-a-dead-end-argument

"It worked despite being in the public sector not because of it"

I'm happy to defer to the opinion of someone who is so well regarded in the industry and has a working knowledge of the issue.

Just as well Corbyn's not in power. It certainly wouldn't be the age of the train.

(Hope everyone had a smashing Christmas! tchgrin)

nigglynellie Wed 27-Dec-17 16:33:12

[roast chicken] wine grin

nigglynellie Wed 27-Dec-17 16:35:08

bother, I put a gap, try again roastchicken

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 19:06:00

Says the man who earned double the pay of an MP for running a railway company, primrose.

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 19:12:19

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-claims-tory-great-train-robbery-as-chris-grayling-facing-claims-taxpayer-left-with-2bn-bill-over-east-coast-rail-reprivatisation_uk_5a2fd775e4b0789502839e6a

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 19:13:51

www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8RcFLzoA2I

Give people a say on what happens to the railways.

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 19:16:18

Not another referendum? You haven't recovered from the last one, which surprises me because it was the result Corbyn wanted

petra Wed 27-Dec-17 19:30:19

Shush, Annie, that's supposed to be a secret wink

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 19:41:40

Oooops, grin suppose Momentum thugs will be tracking me down now

petra Wed 27-Dec-17 19:59:32

Annie Be afraid, be very afraid. I hope you have some Jacky Kennedy sun glasses. A wig wouldn't go amiss, either. grin

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 20:07:37

I have the Jacky sun glasses, but a wig? Had one in 1977 when my hair fell out , it was so uncomfortable , binned it and wore scarves ?

Jalima1108 Wed 27-Dec-17 20:15:14

DGD has a Merida wig (wild red hair), I could see if she'd lend it to you

Primrose65 Wed 27-Dec-17 20:23:07

To be honest Jen, I doubt 2 MPs could have turned around East Coast. He made it into the success that everyone quotes when they talk about nationalisation.
I think he probably earnt his salary and his opinion is valuable.

Annie, you're living dangerously! grin

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 20:33:05

Thank you Jalima , I did have red hair many years ago, bought a colour called Black Tulip, pillar box red wasn't my shade

Yes Primrose, I await the emails for starters then a horses head on the door step ?

Jalima1108 Wed 27-Dec-17 20:35:27

She's a (Disney) Scottish Princess Anniebach who gallops across the Highlands - you could substitute the Welsh mountains.

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 20:39:08

Not galloping them now .Jalima, snow blocked the main road over them this morning , yuck, my heroin is Jemima Fawr ?

Chewbacca Wed 27-Dec-17 20:44:59

Is this the wig you want Anniebach to wear in disguise Jalima? If so, the colour seems appropriate but wouldn't it draw attention to her? hmm

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 21:29:07

There you go again, Annie, making jibes at my beliefs, or so you think.

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 21:31:13

Chewbacca I love it , I want it ?

Anniebach Wed 27-Dec-17 21:33:06

Jen, why not have a break, and I mean that kindly , join some fun threads , you will be mentally exhausted with all that anger within x

durhamjen Wed 27-Dec-17 21:46:24

I have, Annie, and am back with renewed vigour.
Maybe you should take a longer break.
No anger; all said with a smile on my face.

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