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The royal wedding.

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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

durhamjen Tue 09-Jan-18 19:18:15

Conservative group on Windsor council are going to have a vote of no confidence in him. No wonder he's trying to justify what he said.

Jalima1108 Tue 09-Jan-18 20:00:26

Didn't people take sleeping bags and kip on the route of the Royal Wedding of Harry's parents?
London was in an exuberantly festive mood long before the evening celebrations, with hundreds of people staking out places along the parade route, some equipped with sleeping bags covered with the Union Jack,

Just saying ....

www.nytimes.com/1981/07/29/world/charles-and-lady-diana-wed-today-beacons-burn-across-a-joyful-britain.html

mostlyharmless Tue 09-Jan-18 20:33:18

Yes I thought that Jalima. There will be hundreds of people sleeping on the streets of Windsor (and the route from London) the night before the wedding. Bit difficult to keep undesirable homeless out but allow Royal fans to have their tents and sleeping bags.

I've tracked down a bit about the Gloucester B&B deaths and it seems that it is really run by a charity as a hostel for drug addicts, people with mental health problems, victims of domestic violence as well as the homeless.

Gloucestershire has been suffering from huge cuts in budgets for social care over the last few years and I don't doubt that these cuts will have made it difficult to provide adequate support for these vulnerable people.

Anniebach Tue 09-Jan-18 20:54:29

This has been stopped in parts of Wales, a young woman ,domestic abuse, needing emergency accomodation was given a room in one of those B/B, she was murdered by an addict who also lived there. Victims of domestic violence should not be housed in these places

mostlyharmless Tue 09-Jan-18 20:58:57

A vulnerable young woman my family know died (here in Gloucestershire). She had a three month old baby and a partner but had suffered from mental health problems and drug dependency for many years. She probably needed a lot more post natal support than she received.
The coroner's inquest didn't take place for six months or so after her death, plunging her partner into turmoil. Inquest verdict was "death by misadventure" - she drowned in the bath while under the influence of prescription drugs.
Tragic

jura2 Tue 09-Jan-18 21:26:59

So Obama - or Trump ? or both?

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 09-Jan-18 21:36:32

Neither. Not diplomatically appropriate.

Anniebach Tue 09-Jan-18 21:45:38

That is so tragic Mostly, poor woman , hope her partner has support with their baby

durhamjen Tue 09-Jan-18 22:17:48

Trump has said that if he isn't invited, we don't get our post-Brexit trade deal.

paddyann Tue 09-Jan-18 22:19:59

good,no chlorine washed chicken then...we will be missing out ...

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 09-Jan-18 22:25:23

There's protocol for this sort of thing, plus Trump has not even congratulated the couple, so why would he say something like that? Do you have a link jen?

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 09-Jan-18 22:29:58

paddyann did you have to mention that so close to bed time? Bleurgh! I will dream of US chicken! grin

petra Tue 09-Jan-18 22:38:15

Trump himself hasn't threatened the trade deal Re the wedding invite. It was mentioned in the new book about him.
Just durhamjen keeping busy with her wooden spoon.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 09-Jan-18 22:46:57

It could be one of the things in the book that is true. Apparently even if only 50% of the book is true, it will be sensational. I am very surprised to hear that the publisher is going ahead with no changes. With all the legal advice Trump has on hand, I'd have thought a legal challenge for stopping the book would be brought.

mostlyharmless Tue 09-Jan-18 23:02:02

It would be impossible to have Trump there. He would create a huge security risk (plus the risk of protests). If he couldn't be invited then it would be undiplomatic to invite Obama.
I think it's not officially a formal state wedding - it's being paid for by the family - so the guest list should be a private issue.
BUT .... diplomacy is always an important consideration in any wedding guest list!

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 10-Jan-18 00:14:15

Apparently the Obamas didn't attend William and Kate's wedding because of the cost of the security for them and all the palaver that goes with it. They were due on a State visit a month later, so there was no snub. But the Royals are supposed to stay politically neutral, so heads of state who are invited to Royal weddings are usually family or from the Commonwealth.

As mostlyharmless said this wedding is not a state wedding, it's a family wedding. In the past Trump has made inappropriate comments about Diana and Kate. Meghan has spoken our against Trump, so I really can't see that he'll be invited. There's been enough fuss over a possible state visit.

Imagine the protests in Windsor if Trump was invited.

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 12:35:27

I think it will be a 'family wedding' rather than a state occasion like Harry's parents wedding.

I can't see Meghan wanting Trump there and, Royal Family or not, it's her and Harry's wedding.

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 12:37:11

Trump has said that if he isn't invited, we don't get our post-Brexit trade deal.
Stamping his foot as he says it, no doubt

good,no chlorine washed chicken then...we will be missing out ...
paddyann grin

Anniebach Wed 10-Jan-18 12:37:42

It may be their wedding but they will have to accept it cannot be all their way

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 12:42:00

I hope not.

Have you noticed that sometimes there is a guest at a wedding or a bridesmaid or someone - who always makes it all about them and not about the bride and groom.
If he is invited (and I doubt that) then he will in all probability be making it all about him.

Put your foot down Meghan!

Anniebach Wed 10-Jan-18 12:46:30

He cannot be invited unless all presidents are invited surely , just as all royals from Europe are invited not just one country

lemongrove Wed 10-Jan-18 14:16:02

I would think that’s true Annie

lemongrove Wed 10-Jan-18 14:18:23

We have all those hats to look forward to criticising! grin
Especially Beatrice and Eugenie’s.

Anniebach Wed 10-Jan-18 15:11:50

Wonder if party leaders will be invited

Day6 Wed 10-Jan-18 15:54:40

I bet H and M have already discussed running away to Gretna Green to get married! grin

Wedding guest lists can be a nightmare at the best of times.

They'd do well to invite only close personal friends (the Obamas don't come into this category) and the (must have?) heads of state connected to the commonwealth and leave it at that. Trump won't be miffed if other politicians aren't asked.