Is this young woman a terrorist?

It's a nasty topic. There's going to be responses that (some) people won't like.

Birene: 'cannot condone what this family does just as I cannot condone what so-called Isis did in Borough Market for instance.'

how on earth can you possibly compare the two situations and actions here. Really?

Birene - I think by now we understand your position whether we condone it or not.

Israeli students are paid to troll the internet and infiltrate sites with challenging posts regarding Israel. Please be aware.

I wonder if Palestinians do the same?
Not aware of any ‘trolling’ so far Blueskies in fact I think it would be obvious if it had happened.

Really lemongrove?

Yes Jane because most posters are known to us.Of course, if anyone thinks I am an Israeli student, then good luck to them, I wouldn’t mind being about 20 years old again.

Please think of the position of blacks and coloureds under the Apartheid régime - how on earth could they have protested or fought with 'other methods' - their house and parts of towns bulldozed- their gardens, their animals killed - sent to live in shanty towns in the desert
Not just under apartheid - by Mugabe to his own people too. Let's hope that country can recover now.

We failed to intervene there and imo that was wrong - if we do intervene anywhere that seems to make matters worse. I would not know the answers and I doubt any of us do however much we discuss these problems.

jalima1108 there was no internet or social media when the French resistance were working and making use of the media to show the struggle is part of 21st century resistance.
I think stealth was the method used by resistance movements as of necessity.

I meant the pushing and shoving in the street of an armed soldier - so this was not spontaneous (understandable perhaps); this was a pre-planned provocative act in order to be filmed, get arrested and spread her story via social media around the world? Which, if so, has succeeded.

However, it is evident that it has divided people, presumably the world over.

lemongrove of course I know the regular posters including you (and I usually agree with you) but some people appeared for the first time which seemed suspicious to me.

I think it was strange from the very start. Pretending to be that person. Weird.

I think jura2 is a real person NannyTee
Well, a real Gransnetter, although that may not be the same thing

Jane you have to agree with me ( on absolutely everything) or you will be banned from The Argy along with Febreze and Dettol.

The OP was a device to catch our attention, what's wrong with that? Who am I? is a well known activity in schools and at parties. We played it at New Year.

Well, we played it too, but I was a banana.

Real for sure - several of you have met me too. And I never pretended to be that person.

I explained twice already- so won't repeat. And yes, some new names appeared out of nowhere - and it did seem strange.

Jalima wrote
"I meant the pushing and shoving in the street of an armed soldier"
Israel has what used to be called National Service - all young people have to do it with a few exceptions.
So these armed soldiers could be unprepared for provocations like this. and could even by sympathetic in their hearts to the so-called Palestinians.
As many Israelis are.

ps Israel needs to have its conscripted Israeli Defense Forces because they're a tiny country, about the size of Wales, surrounded by mostly hostile Arab nations.

I don't think just Israelis get called up - not sure what the position is now but I was chatting to a friend whose son went to work on a Kibbutz years ago (as so many young British people did) and if he stayed longer he would have been called up.

Jalima. Just for info: So far as I know, its only Israeli citizens who have ever been called up to the Israeli Defence Forces.

As explained, this OP was NOT about the Palestine/Israel conflict at all- but a example of how people can become 'terrorists' when pushed to the limit, and when they have no access to the political process of support from outside.

Just seen another video that explains the circumstances of what happened. And it makes it clear that it was not unprovoked- they had just shot her cousin in the face in front of her, and they wanted to push past her to go up to the family's house, up the stairs, to be in a better position to continue shooting at the children. The villagers have got into the habit of filming all the time- not just this incident- They did not 'set up' the shooting of the cousin, the invasion of the village and the fact soldiers wanted to push by them to go up the stairs to continue shooting ... did they?

I won't post here- as, again, this post was about 'freedom figther or terrorist' - and this was just a thought provoking example which appeared on my FB on that day.

She just has her hands ... and they are armed to the teeth, illegal occupiers - with a large modern settlement just built on the land owned and farmed by the village, they have cut off their water so the settlement can have plenty - having shot other kids just before, and wanting to trespass on their house to continue shooting kids ....

and SHE is the terrorist? Last post on this thread from me.

Bubbe thanks.
This would have been years ago

Just in case any of you think I am not a real person, I want to assure you all that I am indeed real, I live in the UK, I have grandchildren, and a member of a minority group in my very close family. I do not post all the time but I do post from time to time. My sympathies still lean towards Israel because I believe they need and deserve a homeland. I believe a two state solution would be the ideal but it is unlikely to happen any time soon because other states have vowed to never be happy until every Jew is dead (someone else had that objective not so very long ago.)

I am not a troll.

I'm glad you're not a troll. Israel does have an ever expanding homeland. Its the Palestinians that are continually losing out.