Labour back tracks and betrays the British public over Brexit.

Did he support the Spanish Inquisition as well?

suzied This is documented fact not fiction.

I'm off everyone sleep tight.

Definitely a bit extreme Wally. Luckily your is just one view - on here at least.

Sleep well - and calmly.

I wonder what his stance on Lenin and Trotsky is?

Murray is know as a 'lexist' a left wing advocate of Brexit.
I like what he said at the Labour Party conference in 2012.
He compared the actions of eurozone governments enacting austerity policies at the behest of Brussels and the IMF to the vishy regime in France in the 2nd world war.
He's not all bad then

"On leaving the single market and customs union being like "giving up a three course meal for a promise of a packet of crisps in the future"

Whats a silly, infantile remark. Greene was on the EU gravy train. Of course he wants the perks to continue. Vested interest much? It would be interesting if all supporter of the EU were enforced to reveal their affiliations and links, wouldn't it?

Lucrative self interest drives a lot of Remainers.

It seems to have been a remark understood by many and very evocative of the possible situation Day6. I don't think anything can take away the fact that he has a great deal of knowledge about the subject and concern for the country. He is a reasonable source of information and throwing slurs in his direction doesn't negate that. Of course there may be another reputable source that says something different - that is how debate occurs - but I haven't seen anyone tell us about it on here.

"Because Corbyn's Brexit team have been having reasonable discussions with Barnier and others in the EU for quite a time?
They haven't been threatening the EU like May and team."

Oooh emotive language DJ.

Another take on that could be Corbn and team have been trying to undermine the British Government charged with the business of extricating us from the EU.

Mrs May and team have been negotiating with Brussels and have already offered an extremely generous divorce settlement. That they want the best deal for Britain means they are STANDING UP for the UK against Barnier and co.

You make it sound as though the intransigent, pig-headed EU negotiators have been bullied! Pathetic Remainer attitude.

Corbyn is happy to sell us down the river to get his feet under the table at Number Ten Downing St.

Some people might be interested in the fact that 1000s of tonnes of over produced food in the eu is sold onto Africa, therefore local producers can't compete.

That doesn't alter the fact that most of Africa trades tariff free with the EU. There's nothing to 'believe' about it, it's a fact.

If you post a link I'll have a look at the Trade Unions against the EU stuff. (though I've never put you down as being open to influence by trade unions)

Another take on that could be Corbn and team have been trying to undermine the British Government

They are part of the British Government Day 6. Democracy is quite important to most of us and, as right as the current Conservatives might be I wouldn't suspect more than a couple of them as being fellow travellers with fascists so hopefully both sides of Parliament will still be recognised as "Government" for some time.

That they want the best deal for Britain means they are STANDING UP for the UK against Barnier and co.

Extraordinary then that they have caved in to every EU request.

It's really interesting how people can put entirely different interpretations on the same event...

Sir Martin Green was one of the most senior civil servants, with years more experience day in and day out of the subject than any single member of the government

I assume he knows something about the EU and Britain’s place in the world.

You make it sound as though the intransigent, pig-headed EU negotiators have been bullied! Pathetic Remainer attitude.

I've just remembered why I don't normally answer your posts Day6.

Strange the EU don't think that May and pals have offered an extremely generous divorce settlement.
In fact, May hasn't offered anything yet apart from weasel words.
She's going to make her offer on Friday, unless she goes off in a sulk having read what the EU say tomorrow.

Nothing emotive about what I said. May has threatened the EU. Corbyn and his team have been talking reasonably to the EU team.

Whats a silly, infantile remark. Greene was on the EU gravy train

It wasn't said by Green.

And Green is neutral about Brexit- he just has a good nose for bullshit...

And, where is the justification for your assertion that he was 'on the EU gravy train'?

I don't see anything about it in this outline of his career:

After being awarded the Sir Thomas More and Hardwicke Scholarships by Lincoln's Inn,[9] Green was called to the Bar in 1999[9] and became a solicitor in 2001.[9] Formerly a lawyer at Baker McKenzie, Herbert Smith, and the Treasury Solicitor, he is now (and since 2009) head of the media practice at Preiskel & Co.[2]

He was involved on a pro bono basis with Simon Singh's successful libel defence campaign against the British Chiropractic Association.[2]

In 2010, he advised Sally Bercow over possible libel action by think tank MigrationWatch UK and their chairman Sir Andrew Green which was later dropped.[12][13]

He led the defence in the Twitter Joke Trial,[14] in which defendant Paul Chambers was acquitted on 27 July 2012.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green

So do enlighten us.

Watching last nights Newsnight - Sarah Wollastone -supporter of the Customs Union, was extremely interesting.

Particularly over the 62 trying to hold May hostage, and the difficulties that will be faced by industry if we fail to stay with a Customs Union.

maize have just read your post!!
I should have said Sir Martin Donnelly

It was Day6 who got it wrong in the first place.
She was too busy changing her mind about who to slag off to notice properly.

I wonder who will be first to criticise Jennie Formby for standing for Labour general secretary.
I think she will be a brilliant choice.

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/93199/jennie-formby-confirms-she-running

MaizieD
Assumptions on your part about me.
I started my apprenticeship at 15 in the printing trade and became a union member until I was in my 50s.
I was Mother of the chapel in several companies.
My OH was a very active union official and has been a Labour Party member all his working life.

"Extraordinary then that they have caved in to every EU request."

That is interesting Maisie.

You must be a fly on the wall with inside information. Please tell us how May and co have 'caved in' to Brussels?

Do we have an agreement with the EU? I think not.

Whether Corbyn, May or A N Other were charged with negotiating our exit from the EU, I would expect them to ensure we didn't become (as has been mentioned today) a 'colony' of the EU. Many could charge the Prime Minister with being too keen to establish a friendly farewell but one would hope she isn't dancing to Juncker and Barnier's tune. That toxic relationship is one we want to end.

'It was Day6 who got it wrong in the first place.
She was too busy changing her mind about who to slag off to notice properly.'

Says the woman (DJ) slagging off another.
The irony probably escapes her.

Pot, kettle, black, etc.

And now the details of David Allen Green's involvement with the EU gravy train please, Day6

Thanks for that, Petra. I retract my supposition.

I've spent a happy hour looking at the EU and Africa trade dealings. I suspect it's more complex than it's made out to be. But I haven't finished yet.

Of course the irony didn't escape me, Day6. That's why I said it.
I note you didn't deny it, though.