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The Last Days of Mrs May?

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trisher Wed 12-Sept-18 11:42:36

So 50 MPs met to discuss getting rid of her, should we be counting the days? Or will she simply stay because there's no other suitable candidate and no one wants a poisoned chalice?

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 17:24:49

I always laugh at the comments on here by very left wing posters who wouldn’t know a working class person if one fell on their head from a great height.

And who would that be, lemon? Do name names who do you think falls into that category?

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:26:17

I couldn’t possibly say ........

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:27:01

I expect you know who you are though.

trisher Sun 23-Sept-18 17:30:05

Actually men who rented property could vote after 1867.
lemon Really! ALL working class people are racist and uneducated?

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:36:59

Of course not trisher but some on here would find them so, from the comments on here.
I also wonder how many very left wing posters are from working class backgrounds themselves, they enjoy talking about the poor without any real understanding about their lives.I expect they will all claim to have been without shoes now though.

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 17:37:01

I couldn’t possibly say ........

Cowardice?

Or because you can't possibly have any idea about other posters' life experience?

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:38:19

Oooh, think I may have hit a nerve!

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 17:40:31

Though, actually,*lemon*, "I couldn't possibly say" is probably a pretty accurate answer because you don't have a clue about people's circumstances. You just like making wild and unsubstantiated statements.

nigglynellie Sun 23-Sept-18 17:53:14

Only Urban men who rented or paid rates had the vote in 1867. Rural men had to wait till 1884. Others, 1918.

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 17:58:35

Nothing to do with educational level, then, nellie?

Fennel Sun 23-Sept-18 17:59:57

'working class people' - who are they now?
I grew up in a small NE town where the main occupations were coal mining and ship building. My family background was more middle class, but I was in a minority.
We were almost the first intake to the new Grammar schools and most of my friends were from mining families. There were some very clever people among them, cleverer than me, and more worldly. Most were forced to leave at 16 and work to support the family. But some also made their mark later.
Are there any members of the LP now with this kind of background? Which I would call working class.

soop Sun 23-Sept-18 18:03:45

In my opinion Teresa May is not the architect of bloody Brexit. Cameron has a lot to answer for. Bet he sleeps well at night! No one could foresee the chaos that was born of promises that were blatantly false. Teresa May is doing her utmost to represent the best interests of the UK. She is the subject of ridicule and doesn't deserve to be pilloried. A few members of her cabinet are double dealers. They are letting her down at a time when she most needs their support. I would flog some of them if I could get away with it. The opposition make me cringe. "Know it alls" springs to mind. I've no idea what the answer is. I do wish that people could be more respectful of the Pm's efforts as she negotiates her way through a minefield of thankless tasks.

nigglynellie Sun 23-Sept-18 18:11:51

Hear, hear scoop! I totally agree with you.
Maybe, maybe not MaisieD, but perhaps it should be now! Not only these dreadful newspapers, but now we have the additional problem of less than intellectual TV progs - how can people watch such rubbish! but they do, they love it, and it colours their outlook!

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 18:42:34

I agree soop, no one has gone before her, PM’s and party leaders take from those who went before, no one has had to walk the path Mrs May walks.

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 18:44:26

Teresa May is doing her utmost to represent the best interests of the UK.

No she isn't. The best interests of the UK would be to stay in the EU. Hardly anyone with any expertise in any area (apart, maybe, from the fishing industry) thinks that leaving is in the best interests of the UK.

The only 'interests' May is considering are those of the tory party, which she is trying desperately to hold together.

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 18:53:16

Maybe, maybe not MaisieD, but perhaps it should be now!

Your idea, nellie? How elitist.... hmm

Day6 Sun 23-Sept-18 19:03:21

MaizieD -
Then at least the 'easily led' are led by the truth rather than lies and spurious appeals to emotions.

This sort of left wing arrogance (above) is so typical of many who write on the GN political forum.

Time and time again they state that those who voted Leave were hard of thinking and easily swayed by biased newspaper articles and the like.

And yet, if the Guardian or any other left wing site makes a stand, and it does, always, in favour of Remain and left wing politics, their articles are all 100% accurate. Left wingers lap them up yet state that publications with alternative takes on the same news story are bogus and ill-informed as are the people (millions) who read them.

Just who has the best judgement?

Perhaps those arrogant people might at some time concede that others (who read the 'wrong' papers) have just as much brain power, are capable of thinking objectively, recognise bias AND have the freedom to vote in any way they see fit, determined by THEIR views on current affairs. Not everyone wants Corbyn and his Marxist cronies to lead the country you know. That view is just as repulsive to many thinking, educated, well read people.

Diana54 Sun 23-Sept-18 19:08:39

Spot on MaisieD keep the Tories together at ANY cost, although I will add, keep the Unionists happy, loose them and she is sunk.

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 19:13:54

If those who voted / supported leave are led by lies and spurious appeals to emotion count Corbyn in.

Day6 Sun 23-Sept-18 19:24:57

Well said soop.

Like her or loathe her, Theresa May is taking a fairly neutral path in delivering the mandate of the people and taking us out of the EU. She was charged with the task. It just so happens she belongs to the Conservative party, so according to Cobynites, she is evil incarnate.

If Corbyn had been the PM he'd have had to negotiate with EU politicians and beaureucrats too. May has been stabbed in the back by many of her own party and of course by Remain and Labour opposition.

This is a cause behind which we should all be united in order to get the best deal for the UK, yet still we have politicians using party politics to score points and belittle her as she faces Barnier and Juncker. I really get the feeling many are licking their lips every time she is rebuffed by the EU.

At last she has made a stand and as I said before, all those wrong (ahem) publications (which millions and millions of people read) are at last backing her and cheering her on as she says we will not be disrespected by EU member states. Our biggest threat to the EU is to walk away and if that happens there will be waves of dismay throughout Europe. My hope is that there has been a Plan B all along, ready to be executed for that very eventuality.

As a proud Leaver I chuckled all the way around the supermarket after looking at the news stand. The person who penned UP EURS as the Sun headline on Saturday
said it for many, many people.

I expect he or she has been written off already as 'thick and stupid' by the dismissive, arrogant few on here who sneer at the 'easily led' IE: those with views which differ from theirs - all Leavers.

nigglynellie Sun 23-Sept-18 19:37:11

No Masie, not MY idea, more the superior liberal elite who so look down their noses at anyone who doesn't read the broadsheets!

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 19:37:48

I think that several chords have been struck on here this evening...

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 19:38:25

Well, you're the one who's proposing it, nellie.

Diana54 Sun 23-Sept-18 19:57:34

Day 6. I would like to know how they are going to get an agreement on the Irish border that will satisfy the EU, they have drawn the red line and been rebuffed.

At the end of negotiations and parliament endorses No Deal, there then has to be a hard border or are you relying totally on the EU caving in.

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 20:06:40

I am a Labour Party member, I voted remain. Why don’t any other Labour supporter and remainer admit Corbyn let down labour remainers, he didn’t do a damn thing in the lead up to the referendum, he even went on holiday, he wanted out .